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  1. Yep I will !!! oh and BTW as this thread clearly indicates.... this is not a Control4 dealer forum either ( you've already got one of those!) So somewhere for you to "go be happy too"? Take care everyone! IMO
  2. Yep ....you think it's not relevant because Control4 makes it easy for you. But that is not the case for me (and dare I say many others around here...) Even though i have tried... (and my oh my I have I tried....I've gone thru hoops you wouldn't believe!) Reading this thread, Looks like Videostorm has decided to make it easy for me . Unfortunately installing and using JAP and other competing products - the likes of Snap MOIP etc is locked into Control4. So no clues where my business will go!!! And that suddenly becomes the likes of yours (as in a dealers) problem...not mine. And at the end of the day it's me with the discretionary spend! That's why my posts are actually relevant. (I'll leave you all in peace to ponder that....) Gotta love America! Have a great year! Rock on C4!
  3. No problem. Just understand where those feelings come from (that's all). Try walk in my shoes. (And those of probably many of your clients) Videostorm clearly has. (And that's why my post remains relevant) Cheers everyone Have a great year!!! Rock on C4
  4. Well sure. But see Control4 has never made it easy for an end user like me. Never. Easy like Videostorm clearly does... But see that's why you guys never "get it". And never do anything about it... It's always easy for you... It's one rule for some and something like a restrictive communist or fascist state for everyone else... Have a great day and enjoy your Control4! IMO! W
  5. Here we have a thread....And it's an awesome thread, started by a bunch of fantastic guys...which is basically an "adversarial" for videostorm. That's OK by me!!.. But even the original poster/ Videostorm rep said it himself "We have come on this group to start this thread and support it because we don't have our own forum anymore!!!".. "Oh and and we like you guys!" The complete irony is, they have come onto a public Control4 forum to sell their stuff, but you no longer need Control4 to run Videostorm!?!!! It's now completely generic now that control has gone to the cloud. What's that you ask? That also means Alexa control.(without Control4?)..which means another chink in the "goodbye C4 chain" fly's out that AV control window! No need for music. Or lights. Or HVAC, Now no need for AV distributed video? Could this be called a Control4 "own goal"? The other total irony of course is Videostorm is completely DIY......look Mom no dealer or pro needed...., the price keeps coming down down down, and there are third party generics... You can also buy on line! All the things that a Control4 platform should be! Thing is would you guys trust these guys to stay in business? when (as some other poster put it...they need to make their third party stuff and sell outa China)? ie is this stuff legal? Well who cares!? This is what 99.999% of other AV viewing folks" do anyway!!!!!! (cheat DRM) Hint and they don't even pay exorbitant prices...They pay ZILCH! ..yet here we are as Control4 customers actually paying money for this stuff?? And 6-8K for Video matrixes??! ..Just to suit the Harvey Weinsteins of this world?! I mean what the??! (How stupid are we really!!!!?) So VS is cheap?. It seems reliable. It's DIY, you can buy on line, no pro and no Control4! Sure it might become worthless in a couple of years, (say if it runs fowl of the Hollywood robber barons) - but so does your expensive C4 platform become worthless whilst it remains dealer only anyway! (so, go figure) .....who really cares??? Why not go for it?! Anything to fight the Hollywood DRM! (Can't wait for the new 4K encoder to be "tested and certified"!!!!) IMO!!!!! W
  6. Nice to see someone with such an open and unbiased mind. Enjoy your platform! Rock on C4!!!! W
  7. Because it's relevant. Alexa controls via IP. JAP is IP controlled. AV control is currently Alexa's weakest link though this is changing rapidly. It's part of the puzzle putting together an entire voice controlled Alexa house. Cheers! W
  8. Imagine JAP controlled by an Alexa skill... Anyone seen a demo?
  9. It's not a rant. It's a fact. That's why it's relevant. Nobody would have to "reinvent the wheel" at all with their AV distribution setups, if Hollywood came up with a half decent universally applied DRM policy...
  10. yeah the whole thing is a shambles and all our problems would go away if the likes of Disney and other Hollywood content providers provided a half decent DRM solution...
  11. When does this break? Thanks Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
  12. Just remove C4 out of the music control chain. Use Sonos sources as Spotify connect endpoints and switch to Spotify. Set that as your primary streaming source in the Alexa app. Then load all the relevant skills in the app and you are good to go...What you want to do works beautifully without Control4 in the music control chain. .... Heos sources are not quite as good as Sonos for this task because their skill set isn’t as good. Sonos to their credit on this one have moved with the times and are adapting to Amazon way quicker than Control4 seem to be on this - though C4 seems to be trying. That’s because Sonos primary task has always been music distribution I guess. Not HA. Amazon will in the end eat C4’s lunch. That’s because they are becoming the 100 pound gorilla in the HA space and they are DIY. It’s been said they have 4,000 coders working right now on Alexa, AI and HA. How many do C4 have? And probably as many 3rd party coders now writing Amazon skill sets which can be placed right into folks Alexa simply using their app. Music, control of things like lights, and Nest Tstats and a couple of locks. What next? TV's and other a/v gear seems a certainty. Anything that has IP control is fair game. All by the end user DIY without anyone else’s help. What’s more, You can buy Alexa gear online for well under a hundred bucks and it arrives in the post pretty much the next day. All by yourself. A couple of us around here years ago, pleaded with the dealers to try get C4 to adapt to the times and *do something * about what we saw as this impending situation and open up the dealer only model and improve the coder situation - try help them save their own careers and try help save our beloved C4 platforms - and here we are in 2019 and it’s happening now right in front of our very own eyes, just as we thought it would. But then the online bullying came and the name calling. So I left a while ago. But what do I know? I’m just a Russian troll....I think I’ll leave again before it starts once more. Cheers and take care all. IMO!!!
  13. ^...it's actually a HUGE distinction for obvious reasons...
  14. Sure. The distinction is WeMo uses wifi where as the proprietry c4 device that does this in the US (only available with US power rating) is zigbee. Cheers.
  15. Wrong He's from the UK. There is no such Control4 device AFAIK 230/240V. W
  16. A guy called "Nitro". We shouldn't ban passionate free speech. Though he/she had their faults some things that were said back then have stood the test of time. But sure. I get your point. I ain that stupid or lack total insight... However truth be told, Nitro was around at a time I recall when even Control4 still promoted the existence of Movie and music libraries. Libraries managed at home- with content controlled (and stored) by individual consumers... However though Control4 seems to have drifted away from this concept, and seem to be spending more time recently on things like Spotify connect etc (which I also quite happen to like) people still have NAS storage. And they still use devices like KScope... And JRiver still exists. It remains a way of controlling and playing media stored in ones home. For personal and home use only. It clearly still has a core following of enthusiasts and it still fills a niche (for people who remain independent of Hollywood) and who wish to maintain their own control of their (paid) content. Hence my q. But sure. If others don't think there is need for such a driver? I'm fine with it. I'll go on using XBMC or streaming movies direct via the Oppo and HiRes music via a Mac Mini and other Hires streamers. For me I like both concepts. Both paid for service streaming (like Spotify and Netflix) and home content storage. In fact it's my understanding JRiver is one of the few platforms out there that seems to do both well...Could be wrong about that though.. that's why I am curious to revisit it.. I know things like Audirvana do just that extremely well for Music.. anyway.. I'm neither here nor there with it. Don't care either way. Just curious. Cheers. W
  17. This would be AWESOME! as the Oppo can play and stream .mkv files.. All "qualities"....
  18. New for MC24 It's coming in May. Here are a few highlights: Zone Sync 2 -- Synchronized audio, similar to Sonos, across multiple MC devices. Lossless Streaming from listener supported Radio Paradise Blu-Ray Menus -- Choose chapters, extras, etc. 4K and UHD Support -- Play the latest video formats. 64 Bit -- Our faster version now supports Handheld Sync. Read more on the MC24 board on the JRiver forum. Looking at the above specs: I think it is... And Unlike XBMC: JRiver is a paid and supported (with money) media player (A bit like Plex in that regard)... But like XBMC it's Supported on Windows, OSX and Linux Comments please.... (oh and Queue Nitro: )
  19. Sure I get that. Everyone is real helpful here. I try to help others too when I can. What I find a touch "annoying" is the attitude from the mothership. I will never get my head around why they always seem to show so much distain for people thinking for themselves.. and at least providing some direct help to do that. I mean is that too much to ask? That we can think for ourselves? Occasionally we get marketing blurb that things are changing... then we see examples like this (it's a great example) that all that is a smokescreen... Anyway. As purchasers, owners and users of the product, I believe this entitles us to have views on such matters. We are lucky there is free speech. I certainly don't take that for granted. Good day to you all. and Rock on Control4. W
  20. Dear all... I'm leaving the Control4 aka "Control Freak" show a while. Sorry and apologies to all for wasting your time. Enjoy being manipulated by "the CultofC4" But most of all (do try) enjoy your own systems. I was you after all (who at the end of the day) paid for them!!!! P.S on the way out don't forget to read Orwells 1984 for a bit of insight. W
  21. Well yes my point exactly - it's totally ridiculous. I call a farce when it is thus.. W
  22. Well if folks can;'t see why it's not relevant I really am drunk all the time when I post!... (which is actually never true BTW).. Of course it's relevant... its all about Control4 end users getting satisfaction and having fun and learning about their systems without a dealer... heaven forbid we are allowed to be human and think for ourselves!
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