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Interesting strategy, EOL a major controller when you're trying to sell new hardware....

Dedicated mode on IOS app MyHomePC

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Yep, got the Paladin DCR, it's absolutely stunning. Changing modes is a PITA and like you will be routing through the color buttons.

Cool thanks, will cross my fingers they update it, otherwise will probably have to create some presets for C and D.

Interesting, I'm using the ip driver, will I have to add IR to make that work then?

Do these ip drivers get updated? I have the NX7 and it has 4 modes (A, B, C, D) but the current certified driver only has A,B.

Yikes, a niche product limited to an even smaller number of users (OS3).

I'd consider buying it if I didn't have to replace my HC250/SpeakerPoint and upgrade to 3.0. It probably limits my C4 spending moving forward.

It's unfortunate that Control4 doesn't have a certified driver for the Carrier Infinity system. It's a premium system that really requires the use of the Carrier thermostat for full functionality.

1. Will dedicated mode be added back to OS3 app? 2. Any collaboration with Carrier/Bryant to add IP controllable drivers for there HVAC systems? The paid driver is nearly impossible to have installed and homeation has terrible customer support.

You deserve to be on the inside track. You helped a lot of people (myself included) learn about C4 with the forum.

Very cool. Too bad it requires OS3. I wonder what the conversion rate from OS2 to OS3 is, I personally don't love the interface and don't feel like upgrading hardware I use strictly for I/O.

Do you want to be rich selling to the poor or poor selling to the rich? SnapAV will need to bridge that divide if they want to grow.

Excellent read and not a big surprise, except for SnapAV bidding against themselves.

Try 6321, 5010, those are pretty common ones also.

You should upgrade to 2.10. It is compatible with more Control4 equipment, adds control for Mac's and has an improved (non Windows 10) interface.

I'm not convinced that 3.0 to 2.10 is a downgrade from everything I have seen and heard!

YES PLEASE to SIRI integration, now that is worth a controller upgrade.

I stand by my comment that there is nothing revolutionary or evolutionary about sending RS232/IR/Relay signals. The Control4 system as a whole is both revolutionary and evolutionary, sending basic signals by a slave controller, not so much. I'm glad that Control4 does everything in its power to not deprecate hardware. However, for whatever reasons some of which you have outlined, the HC250 is now useless beyond 2.10, 7 years after it was sold as a behind the TV I/O and OSD device. So what next? Buy an EA1 so it's EOL'ed in 4 years, again and again or just a buy a third party device that is less expensive and will perform the basic set of functions that people use the HC250 for? As to your comment: "tells me that you have some in-depth knowledge about Control4 hardware and software that I’m not aware of." I have been a Control4 customer for nearly 8 years and have referred many other people to Control4. A quick perusal of my posting history would have given you an idea of how much dumber I am then a Control4 engineer.

Sending IR/RS232/Audio/Relay/Zigbee signals shouldn't require updated hardware. There is nothing revolutionary or evolutionary about that function and Control4 has already shown that OSD can be disabled. There are a lot of ways to make money but forcing your customers to replace equipment that adds nothing to the customer experience is disingenuous.

Very true, except a Ring Door Bell doesn't cost $1k and require you to cut into your brick, cedar, aluminum siding.

Which begs the question. Why buy Control4 Door stations, touchscreens, speaker points and even slave controllers when it is such a huge deal for Control4 to maintain? They brag about supporting 13,500 third party devices, aren't we better off buying those whenever possible?

They make money on the sale of hardware, not really the sale of software. It's crazy when people throw out comparisons of upgrading your iPhone every 2 years. I use my iPhone more then my Control4 system in its entirety, let alone a touchscreen, controller, etc. Chalk it up as a lesson learned and minimize your investment in Control4 products. Whenever possible buy third party products. No more touchscreens, speaker points and controllers behind TV's for me.