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  1. For those still following this, it looks like the cost difference for the Control4 hardware is on the order of magnitude of $15-$75 higher per switch using wired instead of wireless (assuming MSRP). This range is a function of how many dimmers vs switches you are using. This does not include any cost of the actual electrical wiring or labor. It also assumes that your are using the full capacity of the 2 slot panel (16) or 5 slot panel (40). If you did not fully utilize it, the cost difference would be higher. So, if you have roughly 16 light circuits that you want controlled by Control4, you would pay about $240-$1,200 more for the C4 hardware. Again, this doesn't include any electrician labor or materials. With the wired solution, you end up only running power cable to the keypads (in addition to the wiring to the actual light fixture). With the wireless solution, you run power cables to the keypad AND the switches plus light fixture for each light circuit (locating them in a location out of sight). You'd also need to consider a few dollars for the gang box and for extra sheetrock cuts with additional switches. (Experts, please correct me if that's wrong) Each project would need to understand the total cost difference to see if wired vs wireless made economic sense. Thanks to everyone that has helped with this discussion. Now, I just need to decide if I want to hide switches or pay a small incremental cost to avoid that. If I go with wired, part of me worries about equipment getting obsolete and not having an old school light switch at my disposal to control the lights.
  2. Thanks for sharing. My goals are almost identical to yours. Start with the critical ones...expand over time as desired...minimize wall plates. I’ll wait to see what info I get back on the pricing for a design that suits my floor plan. Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
  3. I’m counting I would want 8 switched light circuits and 8 dimmed light circuits. I would want 6 keypads. Now, I just need help with a rough cost comparison for wired vs wireless. It’s a 5100 sq ft 2 story home with 6 bedrooms and the media closet is in one corner of the first floor. I’ve got 4 wireless WiFi hubs around the house to ensure coverage ( 2 down and 2 up), so I’m worried the wireless switch solution will require similar coverage and potentially drive cost to be equivalent with a wired solution. Obviously the other benefit of wired is eliminating hidden switches in closets around the house. The only dealer in my city is out on a “job” all week and is unavailable to quote this for me. I live in a smaller city so I wouldn’t likely use them for purchase or programming as they Only offer Control4 as a side business for a larger home audio store. I want to get help from one of the “integrators for hire” on these forums for all the programming and purchase help. Is there a dealer here that I can PM my floor plan and get some rough pricing/purchasing help for the two options?
  4. How many? Are they new or used? Pricing?
  5. So, if I used a CA-1 or EA-1 for extending the range, how would it connect to the primary controller? Cat6 or Wireless? Just trying to make sure I have all my rough-in wiring in place to provide flexibility until I make final hardware selections.
  6. Good suggestion. I can imagine that there are alternating tipping points depending on how many total loads you have. Have you ever conducted an evaluation on this for your setup?
  7. Thanks everyone. These are all excellent ideas and they avoid all the extra kit and hassle of the wired option. I really appreciate all the examples. Question about zigbee range...adding switches between the C4 controller and the furthest spot away is the only way to extend range? Or is there another range extender option?
  8. Thank you SO much. You just saved me a lot of cash and headaches!!!! Really appreciate it.
  9. Wow! I didn't realize that was an option. So, let me just clarify...I can hook up all these lights to C4 switches in a location of my choosing (out of the way somewhere - any location that would make sense) and then put the Decora keypads at a strategic location in the house? Do these keypads need to be the wired (C4-KCB-WH) or wireless (C4-KC120277 or C4-KD120-WH)? I'm assuming wireless. Same for the regular C4 switches installed out of the way? Thanks alot for the reply!
  10. Hi All, Currently building a new home and we are beginning the electrical rough in. I discovered 2 lighting challenges that I think could be resolved with a Control4 lighting solution (already planning on using Control4 in the house). I need a recommendation and then design help from a dealer (preferably one of the friendly ones on this site ). Here are the 2 situations: 1. Have multiple flood and soffit lights around the perimeter of the house. Electrician is asking how we want them wired and where to put light switches. After researching Control4 lighting today, I think this would be a great opportunity for a wired lighting control situation. I'd prefer to avoid having the light switches spread out all over the house for different zones. I'd rather just have a control keypad with multiple buttons that would let me turn on any of the zones from 1 location. So, how would I do this? Is it possible to have 2 or 3 wired keypads controlling the same lights? 2. Have a home theater room included in the house. Will have 4 lighting circuits in the room (dimming). Due to the sound isolation design, the designer is suggesting that I put a 4 gang light switch right outside the door to the room in a narrow/tight hallway. There isn't a convenient spot to put this in the hallway. What I would prefer to do is have all the lights controlled by a control keypad with multiple buttons. I could always route individual switches to a my centralized media closet if I needed individual local control, but I would prefer to have this simplified Decora Wired Keypad right outside the door. This could be the immediate local control, but a touchpad would be the main control for lights while in the room. How would I do this? I've read about the wired lighting solutions and it looks like I'd need the following: 2 slot centralized lighting panel, 8-Channel Relay module (for flood and soffit lights), 8-Channel Dimming module (for home theater lights), 8 port ethernet switch, Bus Ethernet Gateway, Bus Power Supply, 2 each 8 channel relay terminal block, Ethernet switch terminal block, 2 Decora Wired Keypads (1 for floodlights/soffit lights and 1 for the home theater). Is this everything? https://www.control4.com/docs/product/panelized-lighting/information-sheet/latest/panelized-lighting-information-sheet-rev-b.pdf I've also read that I would need a dealer to generate the panel, module and load schedule reports based on my lighting loads. Who could do this for me? I would need it completed quickly. https://www.control4.com/docs/product/panelized-lighting/professional-reference-guide/latest/panelized-lighting-professional-reference-guide-rev-b.pdf Since my electrical rough in is currently in progress (I have the theater room and outdoor lighting on hold until I get more info on the Control4 solution), I need help rather urgently. Thanks in advance for any replies. Stephen
  11. Thanks for the detailed replies. Extremely helpful. Yes, for the wires to each TV, I'm planning on 3 Cat6, 1 RG6 and 1 fiber optic. However, I wanted to clarify that Video Storm only needs 1 of the Cat 6. As a follow up, how is the video/audio switching controlled - Control4 or Video Storm? I'm trying to understand if the Control4 touchscreen (or remote) will be my primary device or will I be using an app to control tv/audio and then the Control4 touchscreen for everything else. Ideally, I want one device (1 ring to rule them all...), but wasn't sure if that's how this setup works or not.
  12. Hi all, Building a new home and at the point of needing to complete my pre-wire/rough-in. I reached out to a Control4 dealer for a setup recommendation. His proposal was predominantly Control4 kit (specifically for video and audio whole house distribution). I've been trying to research options to reduce cost as the Control4 kit (video matrix, audio matrix, audio amps) were pushing the total cost too high. That's when I came across the video storm/netplay alternative on these forums. Here is how the house audio/video situation is planned: 16 Audio Zones 3 rooms with TV (Samsung, Vizio, LG) and surround sound (centralized audio amplifiers with speaker wire to speakers in each room from centralized media rack) - these rooms also include whole house audio included in the 16 zone count Audio Sources: Primarily Amazon Prime Music and local iPhone/iPad devices Video Sources: DirecTV, Apple TV, 4K Blu Ray Player - Centralized location So, here is my question for those of you using video storm for both video and whole house audio distribution: 1. What Control4 and Video Storm hardwire is required to make this setup/distribution work? I basically want to be able to send any listed video source to any TV and any listed audio source to any audio zone. 2. How should I prewire back to my control rack in a centralized media rack location? I think I need to run Cat6 from each TV to the media rack for video distribution. Not sure what jumpers or whatever might be required in the media rack for the amplifiers that feed both the whole house audio amp and the amps/receivers for the 3 TV rooms. 3. How does Control4 fit into this equation? Are you using the touchpad (or C4 remote) to control the video and audio sources to each zone or do you use the NetPlay interface? If using NetPlay interface, what is the point or benefit of even having it integrated into Control4 (in other words, what is Control4 adding to the equation). 4. What about volume? How is volume in each zone controlled? Is netplay doing it or is Control4? 5. How would you recommend getting a video doorbell integrated with all this? The Control4 mini-DS2? Sorry for all the beginner questions, but I want to get this right since you only get one chance before all the sheetrock goes up. Thanks in advance, Stephen
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