alanchow Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Recluse AV – XBMC Frodo DriverThe Recluse AV XBMC Frodo Control4 Driver provides two way IP control over the XBMC media player. This driver utilises Control4's media database for cataloging and selection of movies and includes wake on lan functionality and provides the ability to send announcements to XBMC. The XBMC Frodo driver update is necessary if you have updated from XBMC Eden. This is due to the fact that the older HTTP-API has been deprecated. As such all of my older XBMC drivers now will not work with Frodo.Features* IP based communications* Transport controls* They driver can display movies including coverart on Control4's Navigator user interface (available on the controller, touchscreens, remotes, iPad, iPhone, Android, PC and MAC hardware).* Audio End-Point assignment for volume up/down/mute functionality* Video End-Point assignment for those wanting control over their PC's* Samba Authentication integration (Control4 Network File Storage username and password)* Assignable buttons for non intuitive buttons* Wake on lan functionality* Power off options* Ability to send custom messages to XBMC via XBMC Notification (similar to Control4 Announcements via Navigator).* Compatible with all XBMC platforms (Windows, MAC, Linux, AppleTV2, iOS)New to Frodo* SMS style navigation whilst on XBMC's onscreen file mode or library (mapped to Control4 numeric keys)* As the driver is now constantly connected to XBMC you will notice massive speed improvements to commands sent to XBMC* Press/Release scan fwd/rev to increase playback speed by plus or minus 16x.* Pulse (quick tap) scan fwd/rev to skip forward/reverse by 30 seconds* Note Up/Down/Left/Right buttons now only do Up/Down/Left/Right. It will not do a big/small step forward/back due to limitations in API.* Initial connection/reconnection may take upto 5 minutes when connection is dropped. This should only happen when the system is rebooted or XBMC has been restarted.DRIVER SPECIFIC FAQCan you give us some examples of how we could use this driver?*There are not many media players that have a nice user interface that is compatible with a big range of codecs / containers. XBMC is one of the more popular media players out there. In conjunction with Composer Media Edition your customer can manage their whole movie library.*One of my pet hates is to be watching a movie and have navigator pop up and tell me that someone is at my front door or perhaps i have a new email or something. This driver provides the ability to send XBMC announcements. Like a Control4 Announcement this will pop up a custom message however in this case it will not interrupt the current XBMC activity. It will just pop up in the bottom right hand corner for a few seconds and then hide away.*Unlike my older free XBMC driver this driver provides feedback with XBMC. It will tell you when the movie is playing, paused, stopped and what type of media you are playing ('MOVIE','EPISODE','SONG','UNKNOWN'). Using this information you can customise your lighting and environment to suit the customer's requirements.Are there any other cool things we can do with this driver?*By using the media type feedback and the play event you can essentially turn on your AV system to either your audio or video end points. This means for example you can utilise airplay to play a song on your iphone and it will turn on your receiver or if you play a youtube video on your iphone you can turn your receiver and tv on. You can even use 3rd party XBMC Apps to turn it on.*One of my bad habits i have is that i pause a movie and walk off or perhaps i fall asleep in whilst watching a movie. In the past it was hard to track when this happens however now with the OnScreensaverActive event we know exactly when this happens. With some conditional logic (if source == xbmc) then we can essentially turn off our whole AV system when we are not using it to save power or prevent image burn in.I bought a licence for the older Recluse AV XBMC driver. Do i get a free upgrade?This Frodo driver is an update of the older Recluse AV XBMC driver. As such it utilises the same licence as the Eden/Dharma driver. Just delete the driver and add in the new XBMC Eden driver. Same licence, extra features and no added costs.I still have XBMC Eden and i lost the driver! How do i download the old driver?I have included the Eden and Frodo driver in the same download attachment. Please make sure you use the right version of the driver for the right version of XBMC.How do I find out more information about the driver?Please see your Control4 dealer for more information. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bsalvador Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Very good Alan! Keep the good working! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 sweet! just upgraded my openelec boxes today...so I need to test this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumult Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Alan,Kudos on releasing the updated driver! Can you elaborate on the disconnecting/reconnecting and the time it takes when xbmc is restarted?thx,tum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luis Guilherme Posted December 21, 2012 Share Posted December 21, 2012 Perfect Allan...Thank You!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted December 21, 2012 Author Share Posted December 21, 2012 Alan,Kudos on releasing the updated driver! Can you elaborate on the disconnecting/reconnecting and the time it takes when xbmc is restarted?thx,tumAs JSON-RPC communicates via a port that requires constant connection (9090) should xbmc get disconnected the control4 driver will attempt to auto reconnect every 5 minutes. I did try to play with other smaller increments but found that smaller increments effected director's CPU. Note that this only happens when xbmc is off. Anyways guys I'm about to board a plane for Japan so if you have any questions ill answer it when I get back on the 14th of jan. see you guys later. Have a safe and happy holidays! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSDave Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 Should the page up/page down buttons work on the SR-250? They worked on the Eden driver, but not on the beta frodo driver you sent me, and the final frodo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 22, 2012 Share Posted December 22, 2012 I've just tested frodo on a 24/192 file. It works! This is very exciting stuff.The next is to confirm if XBMC will play these files out via USB...If it does we now have a 24/192 PCM hirez music player solution that could be built for under 1K, run under linux. Fanless. And output to some very hi end DAC's (so run into your hi-end gear) *and* be controlled via control4 in a very similar fashion to the way the EV sonos driver works..Cooooool :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 Reading through the posts and manual.Have a question regarding the 5 min reconnection time.. Does that essentially mean that users wont be able to put their system into hibernate(or suspend?) on power off and have it turn on when needed? To be clear what i mean is that the system will turn on and be available but the remote wont be usable for up to 5 min while it reconnects? Maybe I'm answering my own question here? But is that what the boot time is for? If you put an accurate enough time it should connect after the system boots up? (then try again 5 min after that if not connected?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 The driver will attempt to connect on power on having said that though if it times out (not sure exactly what control4's timeout is on network connections) it will try again every 5 minutes. From my tests this is the optimum repeat count that will not put a controller under load. Otherwise if xbmc is off control4 will experience a heavier then normal load on processing. Hope that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 The driver will attempt to connect on power on having said that though if it times out (not sure exactly what control4's timeout is on network connections) it will try again every 5 minutes. From my tests this is the optimum repeat count that will not put a controller under load. Otherwise if xbmc is off control4 will experience a heavier then normal load on processing. Hope that makes sense.Alan, Can we buy the driver directly from you? without being a c4 dealer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I'd there a timer after power on? Since it could take from 5 sec or 1 min depending on the system booting up. Is this the boot time value for when it tries to connect? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I have asked my dealer to get the driver for me on numerous occasions. Could someone please help me get it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted December 29, 2012 Author Share Posted December 29, 2012 We do offer programming services however I am currently on holidays in Japan:) so will not be able to attend to it until I get back in mid jan. Yes there is a boot timer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted December 29, 2012 Share Posted December 29, 2012 I have asked my dealer to get the driver for me on numerous occasions. Could someone please help me get it?I hear you. I gave-up on 3rd party drivers mainly due to this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I would be interested to understand this better? Too hard for dealer? Not enough revenue?I have asked my dealer to get the driver for me on numerous occasions. Could someone please help me get it?I hear you. I gave-up on 3rd party drivers mainly due to this reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 I've had my control4 system now close to 10 years an have had a lot of dealers. And I've never been able to buy a third party driver from them. It's embarrassing. Why, for heaven sake, can't we buy it directly, it gets installed remotely and we could actually really start supporting the developing software company. Would this be the way forward rather than fouling ourself in think that may half of the dealers are committed (no disrespect to the few who actually are). It just such a pain,..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 It's not hard for anyone to install. It's more of a hassle for a dealer to do this. My dealer is crack at selling Control4 crap. This is what puts his kids through private school. Why should he become a "dealer" for a 3P in some other country and sell one maybe two units? Even he claims that we here on this forum are a very small minority. There's really no argument here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 It's not hard for anyone to install. It's more of a hassle for a dealer to do this. My dealer is crack at selling Control4 crap. This is what puts his kids through private school. Why should he become a "dealer" for a 3P in some other country and sell one maybe two units? Even he claims that we here on this forum are a very small minority. There's really no argument here...+1Having said that, I think Alan's programming service which he is proposing would be a solution. @ Alan. Could we have some details about these services, and could you possibly mail me a rate sheet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Happy to do a remote install of this driver for members if there is interest please PM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Driver sold to neildilgee for DIY installation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Hi Ak1, thank you so much for your help. I've been looking for a dealer like you for ages. ( please consider to move to South Africa ) Thank you for your assistance, even during the weekend, everything is working good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neildilgee Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 With my previous xbmc driver, there use to be a 30 sec /10 min skip feature with the arrows on the remotes. This one does not seem to have. Is there anyway I could have this feature on this xbmc driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stormwatch Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 Not possible with the new release of xbmc.You get 30 second skips by pressing fwd\rwdOr you can hold to fast forward and rewind 16x speed I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 7, 2013 Share Posted January 7, 2013 You're welcome Neildilgee. Happy to help remotely with any other stuff!Hi Ak1, thank you so much for your help. I've been looking for a dealer like you for ages. ( please consider to move to South Africa ) Thank you for your assistance, even during the weekend, everything is working good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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