zaphod Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 I have installed firmware that allows me to run OpenVPN server on my router and been able to establish a VPN connection from my iPad to my LAN over LTE - I am still at home when doing this but I have wifi turned off on the iPad so the connection is running though my cell phone company's (Rogers) LTE network. But when I start up the MyHome app on my iPad it tries to connect to my controller and then says:"Unable to connect. Please join a Wifi network connected to your system or contact your dealer to enable Anywhere Access through 4Sight."So does this mean that I can't use C4 remotely through an LTE connection even if I have a properly configured VPN running? Would it work remotely if I was connected via wifi rather than LTE/3G? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 19, 2014 Share Posted April 19, 2014 Delete your app config and readd your system Sent from my XT1060 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 19, 2014 Author Share Posted April 19, 2014 Do you mean delete the app from my iPad and then reinstall it? Or is there another way to delete the controller in the app settings? Should I be connected only via VPN (and not local wifi) while re-establishing and reconfiguring the connection to the controller? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 you can connect via a properly connected and routed VPN to control4 and the myhome app will just think you are on the local network. If you don't have your vpn routes set up right, the app will think you are outside your main home network. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDawg1974 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 What software are you running? Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 I am running OpenVPN - OpenVPN server on my Asus RT-N66U router with Merlin firmware and the OpenVPN app on my iPad. But the app seems to know that wifi is shut off on the ipad. Note that I am able to SSH into my server so I have a valid connection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDawg1974 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 should have been more clear what firmware are you running on your control 4 system Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 I am running version 2.5 of Control4 - is that what you mean? The iPad app reports Director version 2.5.2.247182-res. I no longer have a valid subscription to 4sight if that matters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillDawg1974 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 why don't you just spend 100 bucks and get the foresight license instead of screwing around with a VPN Sent from my DROID RAZR using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Audio Obsessions Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I think there is a trick to it. Something like edit the IP address and then edit it back? But I also think you need to wait for the timeout. I would also just pay the $100, so you can press one button to connect instead of multiple (vpn then c4). After all you did buy a control system to help minimize button pressing. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 20, 2014 Author Share Posted April 20, 2014 Why don't I just buy a 4sight license? Because there are many other uses in being able to make a VPN connection back to your LAN. To be honest I don't know how often I will want to use C4 remotely, but I thought I would try it out now that I have a VPN working. I have had 4sight subscriptions in the past and I pretty much never used them, except for being able to email notifications and now there are other drivers that can do that without requiring 4sight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 4Sight is, in my opinion, a complete waste. Everything 4Sight provides is easily accomplished at no charge. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 4Sight is, in my opinion, a complete waste. Everything 4Sight provides is easily accomplished at no charge. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk.let's finish that sentence. By someone with a higher than average networking skillz and a willingness to open ports to a network with unencrypted devices on it. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 let's finish that sentence. By someone with a higher than average networking skillz and a willingness to open ports to a network with unencrypted devices on it. Sent from my LT26i using TapatalkI use a secure VPN as opposed to Port Forwarding. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramorous Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 a willingness to open ports to a network with unencrypted devices on it.Yeah OpenVPN with 2048 bit key authentication is really insecure. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 I use a secure VPN as opposed to Port Forwarding. Sent from my Droid MAXX via Tapatalk.I still stand by the fact that the 'average' control 4 user has no idea what you are talking about and the 'above average' ones here are writing because they are having trouble getting access to their C4 systems through VPN. Hardly easier than the C4 offering. Cheaper yes. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Yeah OpenVPN with 2048 bit key authentication is really insecure. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalkthat also depends on the passkey used. 2048 bit encryption on the password 1234Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramorous Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 that also depends on the passkey used. 2048 bit encryption on the password 1234Sent from my LT26i using TapatalkKey authentication not password. Much more secure. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 20, 2014 Share Posted April 20, 2014 Key authentication not password. Much more secure. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalkstill potential weakness in khttp://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Signature_AlgorithmI get it is more secure than an open port but the OP still can't get home access despite all this banter. Sent from my LT26i using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Ultimately why is anyone fighting over whether to use the C4 solution or a VPN? The OP wants to use a VPN and asked for help setting it up, not for people to argue and look up security flaws just for the sake of argument. Can't we just accept he wants a vpn and attempt to help? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can you close the openvpn app then open safari on the iPad and type in say your router IP address and it connects to your router? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 I'm guessing you have a configuration issue with the "redirect-gateway def1" parameter Maybe a visit to the open vpn forum would net you better advice Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramorous Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Can you close the openvpn app then open safari on the iPad and type in say your router IP address and it connects to your router? Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkYes. I can access my entire subnet. Take a look at your routing table after you connect. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramorous Posted April 21, 2014 Share Posted April 21, 2014 Yes. I can access my entire subnet. Take a look at your routing table after you connect. Sent from my Galaxy S5 using TapatalkNvm you're not OP. LolSent from my Galaxy S5 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted April 21, 2014 Author Share Posted April 21, 2014 I am the OP and use, I can log into the router from the web UI and I can also log into my C4 controller via a SSH session so I definitely have access back to my LAN. So it looks like the redirect options sends all internet traffic over the VPN. I will try that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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