csmpez Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 I'm looking at ditching my POE injectors for an 18 or 24 port POE switch and I've read on the board discussions about Netgear POE switches, but not much in the way of Planet POE switches w/the exception of their POE injectors. I like the various Netgear switches, but they can be a bit loud and our AV rack is in a closet near our family room. So, I'm trying to keep the noise down a bit if possible. Does anyone have any experience with the Planet POE switches with their network and Control4 system? For example, the FGSW-1828PS, FNSW-2400PS and the FGSW-2612PVM. Thanks! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dc15 Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 If I recall I think Kevin L on here sells them, and he is pretty much as respected as they come in the C4 world Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
budd1e_lee Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 FGSW-1828PS Just installed this to run 4 touchpanels and 2 cameras POE. No issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 That's one I'm really thinking about, but may like to have 24 ports instead of the 18 ports. I could probably fill up most of the POE ports and won't have much room to grow if I get the FGSW-1828PS. However, I may end up going that route. FGSW-1828PS Just installed this to run 4 touchpanels and 2 cameras POE. No issues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chicagoskiguy Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Why not just use a POE midspan? Fairly cheap on ebay, then you can use any switch you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted July 17, 2014 Author Share Posted July 17, 2014 What Planet POE midspan would you recommend? Again, I want to do away with injectors and keep everything simple/clean. I don't need a 6-pack (or more) of POE injectors with all their wiring and power cords in the rack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Mid-spans are the preferred option IMHO - Planet has the POE-2400G and HPOE-2400G (24 port gigabit mid-spans, the second being high power if you need the rating). Unfortunately I think Planet is phasing these out...they're good pieces. Use and change your switch as desired, get a 48 port switch non-poe as your central hub and get 24 ports poe out of it without the negative impact of daisy chaining switches...and it remains a nice clean install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Lost me there with the 48 port non-poe and you get 24 ports poe out of it comment. Are you saying yo get the poe-2400G abd a 48 port non poe as the central hub? Or judt one 48 port switch that.splits up the ports half POE and the other half non-POE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 A midspan is a separate piece, in this case it's basically a 24 port injector that rack mounts and has one power supply. As stated it's a clean install and the preferred method. Here is an explanation: http://www.midspans.com/pages/midspan_notswitch.php Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qVAMPIREp Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Can anyone recommend a "Quiet" 24 port POE switch for csmpez? Adding injectors will just add noise for him which he stated he wanted to avoid if possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texas3622 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I have an AV closet in my game room and couldn't stand the noise generated by the POE switch. I ended up getting POE injectors - I have 9. I also used 2 24 port network switches (that don't have a fan) instead of a 48 port switch which always have a fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted July 18, 2014 Author Share Posted July 18, 2014 Thanks everyone for the information... and thanks qVAMPIREp for the follow up. That's exactly what I'm looking for, a nice and "quiet" 24 port POE switch that can be split 12 ports POE / 12 ports ethernet that will work with all the C4 gear and any future gear I have. I like the idea of a midspan to handle the POE power issue and a stand alone switch (fanless) to handle the data... but if there's a little larger device than the Planet FGSW-1828PS, that would be great. I feel if I get this, I could easily use it all up. Also, since we're on the topic of power and mid-spans, I've been reading a lot on the Ubiquiti WAP and their LR wifi products and it seems they need to use their own POE injectors or a Ubiquiti switch. So if I go with these for additional wifi range in and around the house, that would be another switch or more POE injectors in the rack. Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Well...Ubiquity and others use a different voltage, so yes it would require an added piece. There are midspans available for these as well however.Midspans tend to be quit if not soundless (many don't have or require fans) to a not uncommon setup would be: 24/28 port switch (non poe)12 port midspan (normal poe)4 port midspan (lower voltage) This can be a soundless setup providing you have a fanless non-poe switch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 +1 on midspans. Typically use 2 of the 4 port Planet midspans. One for touchpanels and one for the APs.Been there done that - a whole network got screwed up because a POE 16 port decided to have a poe issue 2 years later. Yes there's three power cords, but no fans, more redundancy, easier troubleshooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted August 21, 2014 Author Share Posted August 21, 2014 So, correct me if I'm wrong, with the midspans like the POE-2400G, you still need a switch between the midspan and the router. As an example, if you have 16 items plugged into the 2400 for POE (touch panels, cameras, etc.), you will need to have at a minimum a 16 port Ethernet switch to connect between the midspan and router. Just talking out loud... trying to understand this. Thanks! Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted August 21, 2014 Share Posted August 21, 2014 Exactly. A midspan sits in the "middle" between a network switch and POE devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Can anyone recommend a "Quiet" 24 port POE switch for csmpez? Adding injectors will just add noise for him which he stated he wanted to avoid if possible.I just got the 24 port Planet midspan POE. Fan noise = totally unacceptable. Avoid this product (POE-PT2400G) It's going back... that is if our piss weak consumer laws allow this.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Well...Ubiquity and others use a different voltage, so yes it would require an added piece. There are midspans available for these as well however.Midspans tend to be quit if not soundless (many don't have or require fans) to a not uncommon setup would be:24/28 port switch (non poe)12 port midspan (normal poe)4 port midspan (lower voltage)This can be a soundless setup providing you have a fanless non-poe switchUbiquity uses 48v on higher spec products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Blackwire Designs sells a silent fan option for these POE switches with warranty support - yes they are super noisy without this option. I believe it's $25 per fan - my high powered 28040P4 has 3 fans so $75 upgrade fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 ^ Do they do this for the planet midspans? How?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 Don't know if they do it for midpsans. Without the silent fans, my switch sounded like a 747 landing at Tullamarine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted November 19, 2014 Share Posted November 19, 2014 we have silent fans available for ALL planet products Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted November 20, 2014 Share Posted November 20, 2014 Ok> How do I get this to you to do the mod? Or is this DIY? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted November 21, 2014 Share Posted November 21, 2014 Ok> How do I get this to you to do the mod? Or is this DIY? Thanks send me an email kevin @ blackwiredesigns . com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
csmpez Posted November 24, 2014 Author Share Posted November 24, 2014 I have the silent fan option from Blackwire in my Planet Poe switch and you can't even hear it. Highly recommend it.Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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