Cyknight Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 4 minutes ago, am350z said: Perhaps because c4 alarm integration in my experience, albeit limited, has not been great? Then I'm guessing it's been integrated wrong - properly done, it's pretty much flawless, at least when it comes to take over the 'common' interface - but as per the pictures above, there's touchscreens for all the common integrated security systems, if you're willing to pay for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chico Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 31 minutes ago, Cyknight said: The bigger question is if you're doing C4, why pay for a fancy keypad - hide one keypad somewhere out of the way as back-up (ie at the security panel) and put in a C4 touchscreen.... Much more elegant. Good solution. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am350z Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 48 minutes ago, Cyknight said: Then I'm guessing it's been integrated wrong - properly done, it's pretty much flawless, at least when it comes to take over the 'common' interface - but as per the pictures above, there's touchscreens for all the common integrated security systems, if you're willing to pay for it. No, integrated correctly. Panel is Vista128bpt with Houselogix serial driver. It works but is certainly slower than directly using the Honeywell keypad. And a little bit clunky. Maybe I should try the Hsim driver? Should also add it is much slower than Honeywell's Total Connect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 I've not used that driver specifically, so can't comment on it - nor have I tried THAT panel with HSIM.. I can tell you we do DSC PowerPC series, GE Concord, Network NX 8 and Vista (or equivalent) panels (4232 usually as we don't install those panels ourselves and other security providers don't like messing with 3rd party stuff) and local arming and disarming is basically instant. I'm most familiar with the first two (DSC at the showroom, probably the most installed panel we have now - Concord4 I have at my own house, used to be the most common) I should add. Personally I'm waiting for the first chance to do a NEO setup now that we have final pricing and the module available locally - we do a panel several times a month usually, but we are in the middle of some HUGE projects AND have a few people out for specialty training so 'new' stuff is held back a bit, and the panel I happened to replace today was a Concord (to keep the existing wireless sensors) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am350z Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 12 minutes ago, Cyknight said: I can tell you we do DSC PowerPC series, GE Concord, Network NX 8 and Vista (or equivalent) panels (4232 usually as we don't install those panels ourselves and other security providers don't like messing with 3rd party stuff) and local arming and disarming is basically instant. The 128bpt is a Vista series panel which allows direct serial control yet there is no C4 driver other than 3rd party. Its a shame because it is a pretty common panel. Odd that they have driver for the lower panels that dont direct support serial but not for the ones that do. I called C4 to see if it would be though I know they may not have or give any info. I guess i have to keep waiting, try hsim driver or change panels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstafford388 Posted March 29, 2016 Share Posted March 29, 2016 We have several houses running security mainly on touchscreens and it works just fine. Like Cy said we always keep at least one Honeywell keypad somewhere but it never gets touched. C4 alarm integration has been just fine for years, with my only complaint being the way the driver does the panic buttons. Nothing a little creativity can't solve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
am350z Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Either my panel doesnt have the best support, though it is a common panel from an official panel or my expectations are too high! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 2 hours ago, am350z said: Odd that they have driver for the lower panels that dont direct support serial but not for the ones that do. Nothing odd about it - it's which panels are used most that get prioritized. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 New security interface looks great. Just an overall better experience. This update really makes me want to replace my 2 security keypads with c4 touch screens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Is this new driver specific for 2.8+ systems or is it just a refresh that works with all flavors of C4? Thanks, Jeff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 55 minutes ago, Jeffrey said: Is this new driver specific for 2.8+ systems or is it just a refresh that works with all flavors of C4? Thanks, Jeff it requires 2.8 + . It is using a brand new proxy that is only available in 2.8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth_j Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 Ugh.. you proved my point with every one of those pictures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 5 minutes ago, seth_j said: Ugh.. you proved my point with every one of those pictures. LOL nah, THESE 80's touchscreens (no really!): Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted March 30, 2016 Share Posted March 30, 2016 My C4 Honeywell Vista 20p integration through RS232 has been phenomenal. The wireless door contacts that drop into the top of the door are some of my favorite things. I have them on interior doors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Does this driver not have the "History" portion or is that a separate piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 Does this driver not have the "History" portion or is that a separate piece? You have to install the history driver too. That is optional. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 5 hours ago, msgreenf said: You have to install the history driver too. That is optional. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Ok thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 31, 2016 Share Posted March 31, 2016 4 hours ago, therockhr said: Ok thanks. I said this wrong - its not a driver to add - it's an agent. You need to turn on the history agent Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted April 3, 2016 Share Posted April 3, 2016 On March 31, 2016 at 3:23 PM, msgreenf said: I said this wrong - its not a driver to add - it's an agent. You need to turn on the history agent I really like the history agent. this new security integration is night and day better than the old one. Wife (and I) wants to replace the keypad in bedroom with a touchscreen. Didn't think I would ever be able to justify the need for one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophers Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 i added the new driver and it works great, but not showing up in any navigators. i had removed the "security system" driver since the "security panel" from the new driver was present. am i doing this wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 No. But you didn't make the room level bindings. In each room you have to make a connection to the correct partition. Sent from my Nexus 5X using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
christophers Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 got it, thanks. all is working now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted April 10, 2016 Share Posted April 10, 2016 On March 29, 2016 at 6:27 PM, Cyknight said: I've not used that driver specifically, so can't comment on it - nor have I tried THAT panel with HSIM.. I can tell you we do DSC PowerPC series, GE Concord, Network NX 8 and Vista (or equivalent) panels (4232 usually as we don't install those panels ourselves and other security providers don't like messing with 3rd party stuff) and local arming and disarming is basically instant. I'm most familiar with the first two (DSC at the showroom, probably the most installed panel we have now - Concord4 I have at my own house, used to be the most common) I should add. Personally I'm waiting for the first chance to do a NEO setup now that we have final pricing and the module available locally - we do a panel several times a month usually, but we are in the middle of some HUGE projects AND have a few people out for specialty training so 'new' stuff is held back a bit, and the panel I happened to replace today was a Concord (to keep the existing wireless sensors) Cyknight, I have read that it is not possible to integrate DSC NEO panels into both C4 and Alarm.com together. Have you been able to work around this somehow or are your customers doing something different? I know that Concord4 can be integrated to both at the same time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 11, 2016 Share Posted April 11, 2016 AFAIK you are correct, because it uses the same module, and you cannot integrate both. Generally, we have normal landlines in place if monitoring is desired - for GSM monitoring, we've so far used GE Concord and we have a handful of PowerPC seiries pieces. Note that GSM monitoring is likely still possible indirect with the NEO - ie tie it to a normal phone line connection with a GSM module. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 On 3/29/2016 at 9:01 AM, msgreenf said: And the new driver was just released! I'm not seeing the new driver. Is is actually out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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