RyanE Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 2 hours ago, Luke said: Apple Market Cap $894B C4 Market Cap $761M Yeah, amazing how two companies in two different industries, making completely different products for different amounts of time are so similar. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Yeah, amazing how two companies in two different industries, making completely different products for different amounts of time are so similar. RyanEI was thinking the same thing! Sent from my Pixel XL using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 There is a lot more to success (even financial success) than market cap... But not knowing how much capital was originally invested in either entity (or when), nor knowing how much has been taken out... I cannot really comment sensibly. I guess I could research it but no thanks. As an end user, I am happy with the company's stability, the product, service and the economics for me... If I was an investor, I'd need to do a lot more homework... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 15 hours ago, Luke said: I think you are trying to control the free economy by not allowing security pros in. Who said they aren't being allowed in? If they want to they can do all the required work to become a dealer same as anyone. Heck I know of a few C4 dealers that started out as local security companies. No specific segment or industry is being 'blocked' at all. Free economy is NOT allowing anyone and everyone to just do whatever they want untrained and unsupervised. Would you allow a nurse to be an anesthetist WITHOUT further education? Or a hospital janitor, perhaps the hospital IT guy? Heck would it be allowed for a neurologist to just 'be' an anesthetist without the proper (added) training and education? And yes I do understand that we're talking a whole different level of concern here, but that's what hyperboles are for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 Rofl. Cy. Economic powerhouse of the world. Controls free market economy with his mind Sent from my BBB100-1 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Paxton Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 No ideas on a release date or a time when you would spec this over a EA-1 I can however confirm the driver for the CA-1 is already in composer and has been since Cedia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AHA Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 22 minutes ago, David Paxton said: No ideas on a release date or a time when you would spec this over a EA-1 I can however confirm the driver for the CA-1 is already in composer and has been since Cedia. What if you right click and restore default list? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 15 hours ago, appliedautomation said: What if you right click and restore default list? Are you saying it had been removed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 5 hours ago, therockhr said: Are you saying it had been removed? No what that means is that it not an 'active' driver. There have been dozens of C4 branded device drivers added in composer over the years, some get removed upon the next releases, others linger until it gets noticed.There was one heck of a hubbub about a fan driver (or something) at some point which was just a test driver from one of the internal developers that was never removed prior to release - and no it was NOT an indication of the later fan speed controller. Main point being is that while it's an indication they may have had an operational prototype unit, just because there's a driver doesn't mean there's a device. Again, no-one is saying there won't be, just not saying there will be either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 13, 2018 Share Posted January 13, 2018 On 1/10/2018 at 10:18 PM, RyanE said: Gary, At CEDIA it was explained in detail, multiple times that Intercom Anywhere did *not* have a scheduled release date. It was the only item shown on the show floor that had that stipulation. This is exactly the reason Control4 doesn't typically announce/show 'pre-release' technology. One bump in how long it takes to release, and Control4 gets dragged. I apologize that it's not out yet, but it's not a simple piece of kit. Have a good one. RyanE Can understand it taking time - But most of the work is already done and you have to ask why did they mention it if they do not Typically - Froma marketing side sounds like they had nothing exciting to tell its Customers https://www.2n.cz/en_GB/products/intercoms/2n-helios-ip-solo#tab-4 https://www.2n.cz/en_GB/solutions/video-doorbell-for-your-smartphone https://my2n.com/mobilevideo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 So..... https://fccid.io/R33C4CA1/Letter/Dismissal-Letter-3711879 The product that is certified under the FCC ID: R33C4CA1 model C4-CA1 has not been marketed or sold with this FCC ID. This product will be announced and offered for sell on February 7, 2018. Control4 would like to request that this FCC grant be removed from the FCC website until February 7, 2018 Pursuant to Section 0.457 (d) (1) (ii) of the Commission’s Rules. A separate deferral of grant request has been submitted. The information in this grant contains trade secrets and proprietary information not customarily released to the public. The public disclosure of these materials may be harmful to the applicant and provide unjustified benefits to its competitors. The applicant understands that pursuant to Section 0.457 of the Rules, disclosure of this application and all accompanying documentation will not be made before the date of the Grant for this application. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Paxton Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 28 minutes ago, therockhr said: So..... https://fccid.io/R33C4CA1/Letter/Dismissal-Letter-3711879 The product that is certified under the FCC ID: R33C4CA1 model C4-CA1 has not been marketed or sold with this FCC ID. This product will be announced and offered for sell on February 7, 2018. Control4 would like to request that this FCC grant be removed from the FCC website until February 7, 2018 Pursuant to Section 0.457 (d) (1) (ii) of the Commission’s Rules. A separate deferral of grant request has been submitted. The information in this grant contains trade secrets and proprietary information not customarily released to the public. The public disclosure of these materials may be harmful to the applicant and provide unjustified benefits to its competitors. The applicant understands that pursuant to Section 0.457 of the Rules, disclosure of this application and all accompanying documentation will not be made before the date of the Grant for this application. Those dates match up with ISE 2018, heading over so hopefully we will have some cool stuff to look at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 That's good news - Could we also get a update and the DS2 App ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
therockhr Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 On 1/15/2018 at 2:38 PM, David Paxton said: Those dates match up with ISE 2018, heading over so hopefully we will have some cool stuff to look at. cool. What is the focus of ISE? is it like CEDIA? I still think one reason for this product to compete with the other security hubs that are coming out from Ring, Nest, etc. The new Honeywell hub that has an integrated camera looks to be really nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 8 minutes ago, therockhr said: cool. What is the focus of ISE? is it like CEDIA? https://www.iseurope.org/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 ISE is like InfoCom + CEDIA, with more Germans. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, RyanE said: ISE is like InfoCom + CEDIA, with more Germans. RyanE It's in the Netherlands.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Yeah, I was there last year. There were definitely more Germans. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just now, RyanE said: Yeah, I was there last year. There were definitely more Germans. RyanE LOL, considering the number of germans that moved to the US that would likely depend on how far back you want to track that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 4 hours ago, Cyknight said: LOL, considering the number of germans that moved to the US that would likely depend on how far back you want to track that I only consider those that still have a strong (German) accent. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Oh dear Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanE said: I only consider those that still have a strong (German) accent. RyanE Well, wouldn't any german have a german accent when speaking german? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On 1/17/2018 at 11:52 AM, RyanE said: ISE is like InfoCom + CEDIA, with more Germans. To quote Basil Fawlty - don't mention the war! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cshepard Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 The CA-1 is now available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 6, 2018 Share Posted February 6, 2018 Had the DS2 fitted yesterday and just received a text to say 2.10.1 is released - Will Intercom app be released today ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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