msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 http://www.aftvnews.com/older-fire-tv-devices-are-now-more-secure-with-newly-added-prompt-for-adb-connections/ Only option after this update rolls out is @videostorm IRUSB. Rolling out now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Looks like Control4 Have some work to do Do we have a new driver in the pipe line ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Looks like Control4 Have some work to do Do we have a new driver in the pipe line ?Control4 recommends the video storm ir USB as a solution Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Wow ~ Is the Apple driver Woking on the new 4K boxes Ok ? May have to swap Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybuppie Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Is it really going to break? The article says you will be prompted on screen and can check the box to always allow ADB connections from that "PC". Wouldn't a one-time "allow" keep the device working? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 7 minutes ago, crazybuppie said: Is it really going to break? The article says you will be prompted on screen and can check the box to always allow ADB connections from that "PC". Wouldn't a one-time "allow" keep the device working? yes. The control4 driver can't handle this. Yes, it's broken. I have one box that is updated and it's now broken Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crazybuppie Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, msgreenf said: yes. The control4 driver can't handle this. Yes, it's broken. I have one box that is updated and it's now broken so pressing "OK" via the Amazon remote one time does not keep the C4 driver working? thats crazy. i stand corrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 will this prevent sideloading kodi onto future fire tvs? It has been years since I did it but I recall using the ADB feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 6 minutes ago, eggzlot said: will this prevent sideloading kodi onto future fire tvs? It has been years since I did it but I recall using the ADB feature. no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 12 minutes ago, crazybuppie said: so pressing "OK" via the Amazon remote one time does not keep the C4 driver working? thats crazy. i stand corrected. Control4 driver doesn't know how to properly request ADB authorization or save the key.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Im not a linux guy and I don't understand how the communication/commands work but why is it not possible to create an "app" that would kind of open a "server" and listen to a port to receive commands from a C4 driver. Example: If you install Kodi on a brand new Fire TV and enable remote commands (something like that.. dont remember exactly), you are able to control Kodi from a mobile app, cant you? Or if you install a VNC server, couldnt a driver send simple directional/enter/menu commands? Anyway, I hope amazon allows C4 to build a certified driver for the new units in the future. It seems like lots of people like the amazon fire tv. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 2 minutes ago, mallom said: Im not a linux guy and I don't understand how the communication/commands work but why is it not possible to create an "app" that would kind of open a "server" and listen to a port to receive commands from a C4 driver. isn't this what IR USB does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 In theory it would be a lot nicer if you had an app that would allow two way communications, etc. IR is such an Amish way of controlling things (no offense to the Amish). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, msgreenf said: isn't this what IR USB does? I dont know. Is it? Never used one... haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, mallom said: I dont know. Is it? Never used one... haha yes it is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, zaphod said: In theory it would be a lot nicer if you had an app that would allow two way communications, etc. IR is such an Amish way of controlling things (no offense to the Amish). Thats what I am thinking... If you install Kodi it would provide 2way communication to Kodi apps on your phone. Why cant the same principle be applied to provide standard control of a fire tv? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, msgreenf said: yes it is Cool. But it kinda sucks that you have to buy extra hardware to make it work. Does the app works without the IRUSB piece? Not sure.. I dont think so. Its a great solution for those who really need it working now... but still... why cant an android app provide communication to a C4 driver? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, mallom said: Cool. But it kinda sucks that you have to buy extra hardware to make it work. Does the app works without the IRUSB piece? Not sure.. I dont think so. Its a great solution for those who really need it working now... but still... why cant an android app provide communication to a C4 driver? no it does not, hardware required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, msgreenf said: no it does not, hardware required. Oh well... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Somebody should really come up with a standard API that allows apps on devices like FireTVs, AndroidTVs, etc to be simply controlled via an HTTP GET, once authenticated. Something like http://192.168.1.186/firetvapi?app=kodi&command=play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, zaphod said: Somebody should really come up with a standard API that allows apps on devices like FireTVs, AndroidTVs, etc to be simply controlled via an HTTP GET, once authenticated. Something like http://192.168.1.186/firetvapi?app=kodi&command=play sounds like a job for amazon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 minute ago, msgreenf said: sounds like a job for amazon... Yes, and Google - for AndroidTV, and Apple for Apple TV. This is generally much more doable when the device is a PC but a HTPC also has a bunch of downsides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Just now, zaphod said: Yes, and Google - for AndroidTV, and Apple for Apple TV. This is generally much more doable when the device is a PC but a HTPC also has a bunch of downsides. except this thread is about FIreTV...so not relevant what Google or Apple need to do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THawes Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 5 hours ago, Gary Leeds UK said: Wow ~ Is the Apple driver Woking on the new 4K boxes Ok ? Apple TV IP driver works fine with the current Apple TV's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 Cheers could be the way to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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