Bullseye Posted September 9, 2011 Share Posted September 9, 2011 For those of us with Ademco Vista 20p, would this work better than the ICM? Have anybody tried it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Haven't had direct contact with this device yet but here is info from the Honeywell FAQ'sA single, low cost module (4232CBM Connected Building Module) and Control4driver supports both residential and commercial Honeywell VISTA panels (VISTA-15P, 20P, 21iP, 128BPT, 128BPTSIA)*. The installation and Control4 configuration process is identical, for any type of VISTA panel used. The 4232CBM is also the only solution that allows the Control4 driver to import zone alpha descriptors from the panel, eliminating multiple entry of the same data and simplifying installation.It appears for a Vista20P or FA168 panel you need to have a panel firmware version of 9.1 or higher. What versions of Director is required is not mentioned. Will try to find out more. Anyone else have any other details?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 Simple description: It enables communication between products by providing high-speed RS232 and RS422 serial interfaces for connection to C4 and a standard four-wire ECP interface for connection to the security control panel.• Honeywell’s 4232CBM Connected Building Module is the only solution that allows the Control4 driver to import zone alpha descriptors from the panel, eliminating multiple entry of the same data and simplifying installation • 4232CBM and the Control4 driver support residential and commercial VISTA panels (VISTA-15P, 20P, 21iP, 128BPT and 128BPTSIA)• Installation and Control4 configuration process is identical, regardless of the panel• You can program the Honeywell panel directly from the Control4 keypad or TV—saving installation time• Dimensions: 3.75"W x 2.5"L x 0.875"D• Current Drain: 50mA nominal, 75mA maximum• Input Voltage: 8-12V (supplied from control panel’s ECP bus)• Temperature: 32°F (0°C) to 140°F (60°C)• Package includes: 4232CBM, ECP cable, double-sided mounting tape and RS422 termination resistors (not required for all applications)• Not intended for life safety applications1. Mounts directly in control panel cabinet using double-sided tape (included) 2. Three-wire RS232 or four-wire RS422 interface to external equipment 3. Four status LEDs for system troubleshooting 4. Driver software is required to use this module Control4 Certified on 8/19/2011 for software released versions: 2.0.6, 2.1.0. Driver supports connection to any available serial interface on the Control4 controller device.Wire run length:- RS232 connection: 50' max with 24 AWG twisted pair wire- RS422 connection: 1,000' max with24 AWG twisted pair wire- ECP connection: 900 ft max home run with 22 AWG unshielded wireSupported panels:-VISTA-15P, VISTA-15PSIA, VISTA-20P, VISTA-20PSIA and First Alert Professional equivalents (firmware level 9.1 or higher) -VISTA-21iP, VISTA-21iPSIA and First Alert Professional equivalents (firmware level 3.13 or higher) -VISTA-128BPT, VISTA-128BPTSIA, FA1660CT (all firmware levels) For more information: www.honeywell.com/security/hscAutomation and Control SolutionsHoneywell Security & Communications2 Corporate Center Dr. Suite 100P.O. Box 9040Melville, NY 117471.800.467.5875www.honeywell.comHoneywell Technical Support: 1-800-645-7492Found available for purchase here: http://alarmsuperstore.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_5_42&products_id=4026&zenid=e84ti3vo89tulgn1t8f8v3fo63 @ 169.95 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 10, 2011 Share Posted September 10, 2011 I will place a call to my Honeywell Rep when I hit the office on Monday. See what he knows. Honeywell has partnered with Control4 and come out with a new Vista series panel that is C4 compatible and probably already has the 4232CBM module on board. This module is also available as a separate add on board, as I am reading it, to retro fit other Honeywell panels. You may need to upgrade the panel chip firmware. In my case I have the FA168 (Vista20P) but my chip firmware is at 7.0. I will have to replace the chip with a newer 9.1 chip. My biggest concern will be on the Control4 side if the driver will be for latest Director version only, or whether it will be backwards compatible to 1.7v, which I still use. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hammer Posted September 12, 2011 Share Posted September 12, 2011 Can't wait to hear what they tell you. There seems to be a lot of us limping along on the no longer supported ICM interface which really provides a poor level of integration with Control4 in my opinion. Also, I'm still running 1.74 as well so it would be interesting to know if there is a chance it is supported on that version.A few things I'm hoping the new interface does much better then the old ICM interface:- Reports the open/close of zone during Entry/Exit delay - Update/Reports the restoration of a zone much quicker (currently this can be as long as 30 seconds)- Real time zone state update (after power outage/reboot of Control4). Currently, I have to open/close each zone after resetting my control4 controller for it properly know the "state" of each zone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 13, 2011 Share Posted September 13, 2011 So far, Honeywell only can confirm that it will work with 2.0, 2.1. But an inside contact at Control4 says that being a "certified" driver for a particular version of Director doesn't mean it won't work with other versions as well. He was pretty sure that it would work with 1.7.4, and is going to check further and advise. SO ... I guess I will be the guinea pig and order a 4232cbm and give it a go. Will keep you posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bullseye Posted September 14, 2011 Author Share Posted September 14, 2011 Please let us know how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 Found the 4232CBM at a considerably lower price here: http://www.garrett-smarthome.com/proddetail.php?prod=4232CBMI am not affiliated with this company...just thought I'd help find a good deal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NkySpike65 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Hey all, been out of the loop for a while.... I hope this works, running 1.8.2 myself.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 FYI Received 4232CBM .. not yet installed. Working on it for later this week or next. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 YES!! Can I ask where you bought? How much you paid? Do you plan to install yourself? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I have one on the way as well, but since I have an ADT panel it may prove to be a challenge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 @ thecodeman - where did you get yours? How much was it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 @ thecodeman - where did you get yours? How much was it?Dealer demo, direct from Honeywell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Dealer demo for me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 @ the codeman what version of firmware on your panel?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Well that's awesome!! Anxious to know how it goes....! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmdsmith Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 @ the codeman what version of firmware on your panel??It has to be at least firmware 9.1 or greater. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 @ the codeman what version of firmware on your panel??Haven't bothered to check mine yet but will whenever the module arrives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 @ the codeman what version of firmware on your panel??It has to be at least firmware 9.1 or greater.Correct, I have to swap out my chip to get to the higher firmware version to use the 4232cbm. But we have them in stock so I just have to set aside time to upload the panel, change the chip, and then download the panel info back again. Found a RJ-45 to DB9 adapter on Monoprice.com too so waiting for that to come in so I can use it to wire the 4232cbm to my HC300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmdsmith Posted September 28, 2011 Share Posted September 28, 2011 @ the codeman what version of firmware on your panel??It has to be at least firmware 9.1 or greater.Correct' date=' I have to swap out my chip to get to the higher firmware version to use the 4232cbm. But we have them in stock so I just have to set aside time to upload the panel, change the chip, and then download the panel info back again. Found a RJ-45 to DB9 adapter on Monoprice.com too so waiting for that to come in so I can use it to wire the 4232cbm to my HC300.[/quote']So you can swap just the chip and not the whole panel? I have the first alert panel with a wa20p chip. My alarm guy said I would have to replace the whole panel to get the new firmware. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tigrzeye Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 You can just swap out the chip. We do it often to upgrade the 20p and fa168 panels to use GSM Communication and to provide the customer with Honeywell's Total Connect features. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pharmdsmith Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Nice, looks like I'm going to have to call my alarm guy again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahn Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 Any update on using the 4232CBM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted October 7, 2011 Share Posted October 7, 2011 I got mine in, and need to update my firmware. From what I was reading though, it doesnt appear that you can just "pop" out the chip, you'll need a whole new board. Unfortunately, I'm going to be busy for the next week on project sites and wont have a chance to mess with it until after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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