ILoveC4 Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 I have a room in the far corner of my basement that my kids spend a lot of time in. My wife would like to have a camera to keep an eye on them and what they're doing. The room is about 11 feet wide and 12' 8" long. I'm thinking of mounting a camera in the corner, just trying to figure out what level of camera I will need to get to have a viewing angle to see most of the entire room...I don't want it zoomed in on one area. I guess I could always use two cameras, but that's less than ideal.Does anyone have any experience trying to get full coverage viewing in a similar sized room? What did you use?Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted May 14, 2012 Share Posted May 14, 2012 Mobotix has a 360 degree camera for inside. Looks a bit like a large smoke detector. You would mount it in the centre of the room. Not sure about full compatability with C4 though. I think it is OK with Security Spy, so therefore you could ?? then use the EV driver, but refresh rates would be low in Navigator. Another alternative might be getting a wide angle lense for one of the internal Axis cameras and mount this in the corner. I've seen wide angle replacement axis lenses selling on ebay. Axis are fully compatible with SS and directly compatible with C4. They are also small and inconspicuous, do POE and are very easy to configure Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keter8 Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Try a d-link 930 wireless, good angle, cheap, (under $100), driver on this forum. 932 if you need Night vision, also cheap and effective. Put in 2 if you need to! D-link also has an free app for remote viewing if you need it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 ^45 deg H is OK but one could do better. Pany BB-HCM715 is 69 deg H. But even then, 69 deg might cut-off about 3 ft of that on a side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Try a d-link 930 wireless, good angle, cheap, (under $100), driver on this forum. 932 if you need Night vision, also cheap and effective. Put in 2 if you need to! D-link also has an free app for remote viewing if you need it.How do you go about powering it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Looks like the d-link is ac powered only, doesn't appear to support POE. Although I've heard of POE to DC jacks, never seen one in person though... I suspect it "could" be done if voltage is enough over an existing POE switch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Looks like the d-link is ac powered only, doesn't appear to support POE. Although I've heard of POE to DC jacks, never seen one in person though... I suspect it "could" be done if voltage is enough over an existing POE switch.Right...so what does someone do when they mount these? Do they run a powercord up the wall? Seems a little crazy to me.I'm trying to find a cost effective PoE camera that integrates with C4. I need it to be PoE because it's indoors and I'm not going to get high voltage power there. Any suggestions? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Anybody have experience with this camera?: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BL-C210A-Internet-Security-Camera/dp/B002JLZMN8/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1337104900&sr=1-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFUG Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Looks like the d-link is ac powered only' date=' doesn't appear to support POE. Although I've heard of POE to DC jacks, never seen one in person though... I suspect it "could" be done if voltage is enough over an existing POE switch.[/quote']Right...so what does someone do when they mount these? Do they run a powercord up the wall? Seems a little crazy to me.I'm trying to find a cost effective PoE camera that integrates with C4. I need it to be PoE because it's indoors and I'm not going to get high voltage power there. Any suggestions?Unless the cam is advertised as PoE, it will be powered by LVDC-out transformer. PoE is a premium feature. The Panasonic BB-HCM715 is PoE, for example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Looks like the d-link is ac powered only' date=' doesn't appear to support POE. Although I've heard of POE to DC jacks, never seen one in person though... I suspect it "could" be done if voltage is enough over an existing POE switch.[/quote']Right...so what does someone do when they mount these? Do they run a powercord up the wall? Seems a little crazy to me.I'm trying to find a cost effective PoE camera that integrates with C4. I need it to be PoE because it's indoors and I'm not going to get high voltage power there. Any suggestions?Unless the cam is advertised as PoE, it will be powered by LVDC-out transformer. PoE is a premium feature. The Panasonic BB-HCM715 is PoE, for example.Yeah, I realize that. I was just wondering how people deal with running that additional wire. Seems like a complete PITA.I pulled the trigger on one of these: http://www.amazon.com/Panasonic-BL-C210A-Internet-Security-Camera/dp/B002JLZMN8/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1337110408&sr=8-1For $126.99 with free 2-day shipping and a good mount I figured I can't go wrong. Plus, if it sucks, I'll just return it to Amazon. I'm thinking of the outdoor version of this camera for the front porch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have the panny's outdoor units, 240? or something like that... Work ok. Horrible / no night vision, so have to flood light the area to get even a minor glimpse of what's out, other than that, rock solid for outdoor daylight cameras. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 I have the panny's outdoor units, 240? or something like that... Work ok. Horrible / no night vision, so have to flood light the area to get even a minor glimpse of what's out, other than that, rock solid for outdoor daylight cameras.I was looking at this one: http://shop.panasonic.com/shop/model/BL-C140AI have plenty of lighting on the porch, and the porch lights are controlled via C4 so I can have them turn on when the doorbell is pushed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Also, just thought about running low voltage over a ethernet cable and then just putting the power brick at an outlet somewhere, splicing in the ethernet over 2 wires and then splicing in the power connector on the other end? Same concept, long run power over an ethernet cable, just use the existing power brick as a "power inserter"....Since the d-link is 802.11n, just then configure it over wifi and power it over "ethernet" wiring Its a hack job, but I don't see why it wouldn't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pstuart Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Or just search for POE splitter, guess there are tons of options out there for using existing POE ports and getting DC voltage split out for DC devices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Also, just thought about running low voltage over a ethernet cable and then just putting the power brick at an outlet somewhere, splicing in the ethernet over 2 wires and then splicing in the power connector on the other end? Same concept, long run power over an ethernet cable, just use the existing power brick as a "power inserter"....Since the d-link is 802.11n, just then configure it over wifi and power it over "ethernet" wiring Its a hack job, but I don't see why it wouldn't work.For the $126.99 this Panasonic cost, if it works alright I may just do those throughout the house.Not bad thought though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted May 15, 2012 Share Posted May 15, 2012 Dan, can the new touchscreens be used as a video monitor? The in wall one would get a good view of the entire room would it not?..at a better angle. Can this video be "left on"..ie in capture mode all the time?...> maybe you could use one of these..and also double them up as an intercom for the kids as well...Mum could view *and* shout back .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted May 15, 2012 Author Share Posted May 15, 2012 Dan, can the new touchscreens be used as a video monitor? The in wall one would get a good view of the entire room would it not?..at a better angle. Can this video be "left on"..ie in capture mode all the time?...> maybe you could use one of these..and also double them up as an intercom for the kids as well...Mum could view *and* shout back .. Not a bad idea...I just need to see what the picture quality is like. The only drawback is I'm sure the video from it can't be viewed on the TV, only on another touchpanel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keter8 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Looks like the d-link is ac powered only' date=' doesn't appear to support POE. Although I've heard of POE to DC jacks, never seen one in person though... I suspect it "could" be done if voltage is enough over an existing POE switch.[/quote']Right...so what does someone do when they mount these? Do they run a powercord up the wall? Seems a little crazy to me.I'm trying to find a cost effective PoE camera that integrates with C4. I need it to be PoE because it's indoors and I'm not going to get high voltage power there. Any suggestions?The dlink is very cost effective, Where i live they can be picked up at Radio Shack, staples ot Best Buy. I have one mounted under my sofit plugged into the xmas light plug, not outdoor rated but lasted the winter in Canada. I have another on a bookshelf, plugged into a wall socket. While the dlink power adapter is ac powered, it runs on 5 volts. Extending 5 volts over station wire or LVT is easy and a clean install. I have one extended 30 feet over station wire. One pair of 22 gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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