dinosaur Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have 3 garage doors. What cardaccess products will I need to monitor them and also trigger the motor on each to open/close them?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesh Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have 3 garage doors. What cardaccess products will I need to monitor them and also trigger the motor on each to open/close them?Thanks.search forums....or...search cardaccess... took 2 second:http://www.cardaccess-inc.com/inhomeproducts/index.php?a=solution_packages Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted April 25, 2009 Author Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have 3 garage doors. What cardaccess products will I need to monitor them and also trigger the motor on each to open/close them?Thanks.search forums....or...search cardaccess... took 2 second:http://www.cardaccess-inc.com/inhomeproducts/index.php?a=solution_packagesThanks for the 2 seconds and for the link. I did look on the cardaccess website before posting but didn't come up with that package because it is not listed in their "main products" page. You are a great resource!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your 2 seconds were better than my 5 minutes. What's with the comment about "took 2 seconds"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jesh Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 I have 3 garage doors. What cardaccess products will I need to monitor them and also trigger the motor on each to open/close them?Thanks.search forums....or...search cardaccess... took 2 second:http://www.cardaccess-inc.com/inhomeproducts/index.php?a=solution_packagesThanks for the 2 seconds and for the link. I did look on the cardaccess website before posting but didn't come up with that package because it is not listed in their "main products" page. You are a great resource!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Your 2 seconds were better than my 5 minutes. What's with the comment about "took 2 seconds"?Nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad_The_Lucky Posted April 25, 2009 Share Posted April 25, 2009 If you get that kit, keep in mind it is for only TWO doors. You'll need to buy an extra relay for the third door. You *might* be able to use the switch for three doors if you use the two provided contacts on two of the doors and the built in contact for the third - depends on how your garage is set up. I ended up buying an extra switch and relay and GE contact for my setup. Feel free to ask questions...I can provide more details and/or pics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Buy 3 contact sensors. Install them on your doors. Run cat5 to them. The other end of the cat5 could terminate at the contact inputs on an hc300.Run cat5 to your garage door opener motors. Wire them in with your door button, and then run them back to a relay input on the hc300.At the end of the day, you have your contacts for sensing state, your relay for opening and closing, and your regular wall button still works. And you saved a brazillion dollars. We did this at a job not too long ago to see how it worked vs the kit from CA (as the home owner actually used us to plan the pre-wire and ran cat5 already in the wall). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 Buy 3 contact sensors. Install them on your doors. Run cat5 to them. The other end of the cat5 could terminate at the contact inputs on an hc300.Run cat5 to your garage door opener motors. Wire them in with your door button, and then run them back to a relay input on the hc300.At the end of the day, you have your contacts for sensing state, your relay for opening and closing, and your regular wall button still works. And you saved a brazillion dollars. We did this at a job not too long ago to see how it worked vs the kit from CA (as the home owner actually used us to plan the pre-wire and ran cat5 already in the wall).Thanks Codeman. That's what I'm going to do. Much appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 More specifically, you'll want the garage door contact sensors that mount on the rail and door. Or if you have ADT, they installed a contact sensor at the top of my door for me, and I use it for both the alarm and sensor state in control4. Cant have people breaking in my garage.http://www.cardaccess-inc.com/inhomeproducts/index.php?a=RMC10A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yeah, and keep in mind that an HC300 only has one contact and one relay, so you may need a Contact/Relay extender or additional controllers or a CardAccess device.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 Yeah I dont know what kind of contact/relay get up he has so I just guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 I have an HC500 so I should be all set. Presently I have no contacts or relays connected on that box.My alarm company placed sensors at the bottom of each of my 3 garage doors but set up one zone on the alarm panel.I assume that I can connect wires to each sensor and then to my hc500 as three separate contacts to discretely sense the state of each individual door. I'm assuming that piggy backing another set of wires on each contact won't confuse my alarm system. I'll test it to see if I'm correct.THanks again for the tips. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 I'm assuming that piggy backing another set of wires on each contact won't confuse my alarm system. I'll test it to see if I'm correct.THanks again for the tips.You might void your warranty with the alarm company if you do that. It probably won't work anyway. What model of alarm do you have? You could integrate the alarm with C4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 No, if they're wired as a single zone on the alarm system, they're wired as a single zone. It's certainly possible that piggybacking the wires to try and make them 3 separate zones will cause your alarm to not read them properly.Best bet is to either:1) have them be 3 separate zones on the alarm system, and have the alarm system report to the automation system (assuming it's tied in)or2) have two sets of contacts.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinosaur Posted April 26, 2009 Author Share Posted April 26, 2009 No, if they're wired as a single zone on the alarm system, they're wired as a single zone. It's certainly possible that piggybacking the wires to try and make them 3 separate zones will cause your alarm to not read them properly.Best bet is to either:1) have them be 3 separate zones on the alarm system, and have the alarm system report to the automation system (assuming it's tied in)or2) have two sets of contacts.RyanEI have the alarm system talking to C4 already (the driver is not perfect but my dealer worked around it). Honeywell/Vista/ADT ICM module. The dealer worked around the driver's shortcomings (not all the offered functions in the driver actually worked).All the garage doors are on one zone so C4 sees one open garage as the whole zone open. I may ask my alarm installer to separate the doors into 3 distinct zones and then I won't have to add extra contacts. That seems like the simplest solution.Too bad the driver is not 100% (anyone have any experience with this?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted April 26, 2009 Share Posted April 26, 2009 The driver is 100% for the functionality offered in the protocol.Unfortunately, the biggest limitations (that it takes a while to report zone closed, and that only up to 32 zones may be monitored) are due to how the ICM communicates with the panel.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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