tebery Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I had my system installed over 2 years ago now, and at the time I was told there was not a ethernet version of the LCD keypad. Can anyone verify this? When I will up the info on the display it comes up as 'Zigbee 10 button LCD keypad'. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 At the time, there likely was not an ethernet version.I also have 4 ZigBee 10-button LCD Keypads, which I installed a couple of months before the Ethernet version were announced. I think there was about a 4-6 month gap between the ZigBee version coming out and the PoE version.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks Ryan,Is is confirmed that the 10 btn LCD zigbee version will not work with 1.8/2.0?If so anyone with a ethernet version for sale, shoot me an emailthankstebery Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jberger Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 I believe the Zigbee LCD will be supported in a later release, so unless you need 1.8 today just wait a while. In fact, that's probably good advice for anyone who does not need a 1.8 fix ASAP, just wait and let things mature a bit over the next few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 I believe the Zigbee LCD will be supported in a later release, so unless you need 1.8 today just wait a while. In fact, that's probably good advice for anyone who does not need a 1.8 fix ASAP, just wait and let things mature a bit over the next few months.Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspaulson Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks for the info!Back to the issue.. did an update last nite that popped up on my laptop while downloading music to C4.. after 3 hours i cancelled.. now 2 of my controllers are not working.. i got picture no sound.. has anyone had this problem before and how can you fix.. i've rebooted and still no sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks for the info!Back to the issue.. did an update last nite that popped up on my laptop while downloading music to C4.. after 3 hours i cancelled.. now 2 of my controllers are not working.. i got picture no sound.. has anyone had this problem before and how can you fix.. i've rebooted and still no sound.Please start a new thread for your issue so we can keep this one specific to 1.8 Q&A. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks to all for the information. Question: When the talk of 1.8 was first mentioned, I thought I read 1.8 was going to be for new installs and 2.0 for current installs, and the features were the same. Is this not the case? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Thanks to all for the information. Question: When the talk of 1.8 was first mentioned, I thought I read 1.8 was going to be for new installs and 2.0 for current installs, and the features were the same. Is this not the case?While no information is concrete about 2.0 at this time, the big difference between 2.0 an 1.8 is the rumored navigator GUI update in 2.0. It is safe to assume that there will probably be additional features/fixes/new products supported/etc. with it being a major release.Again, if you're affected by a bug that has been resolved in 1.8, and you feel like it's warranted, you can update to 1.8 any existing system. The people who skip 1.8 and go to 2.0 will still have to deal with the Zigbee Pro upgrade process. A small benefit of going to 1.8 or starting there in a new project is that you don't have to upgrade Zigbee while doing 2.0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Keep in mind that 1.8 and above is not supported for a main controller being a 'first-gen' controller.i.e. if your main controller is a Media Controller or a Home Theater Controller (HTC), you cannot upgrade to 1.8 or later without upgrading your main controller to at least an HC-300.Also keep in mind the other caveats that have been mentioned (no v1 / v2 / ZigBee 10-button keypad drivers, etc.).RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&J Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Just to be clear' date=' These devises will work But You Must have an Ethernet cable.. 1.8 does not support with zigbee. [/quote']Yes... that's why there's the paragraph below it... :/That, and I would love for you to show me how to hook up an ethernet cable to my V1 and V2 remotes!!!Yup, I knew a Tool would reply with something like that.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 ^ It would take a real tool so say something like that.Wait, don't get mad. I don't want you to revoke the invitation to be your friend on LinkedIn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 2, 2009 Author Share Posted September 2, 2009 Guys, can we please stay on topic to 1.8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted September 2, 2009 Share Posted September 2, 2009 Sorry codeman, that idiot brings out the worst in me. Back on topic. So, who's taken the plunge (besides codeman)? How many hours was the dealer on site for the upgrade? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 ILoveC4,Please keep your opinions of other forum members to yourself. Try and keep it civil, please.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingzz Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 ILoveC4,Please keep your opinions of other forum members to yourself. Try and keep it civil, please.RyanEWhy just get on ILoveC4 when you should be saying that to K&J as he threw the first stone.If your going to get on someone for calling someone else a name you better look at your rouge dealers first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&J Posted September 3, 2009 Share Posted September 3, 2009 So, who's taken the plunge (besides codeman)? How many hours was the dealer on site for the upgrade?FYI, The 1.8 Upgrade time depends on how many Switches / Dimmers etc. the customer has in the project. Each individual Dimmer / Switch etc. needs to be re-identified during the upgrade.We have only 9 Dimmers / Switches in our store and the upgrade took almost 3 hours.Have a Great Day! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 I have almost 60 dimmers/switches/keppads. So at approx. 20 minutes per device ( K & J said 3 hours for 9 devices so that's ~20 minutes each) I can figure that my house will take 60X20minutes=1200minutes=20 hours! Can that be right?If we figure that a dealer charges ~$90/hour (or more) then the estimated time to upgrade is.........drum roll please........at least $1800!I already spoke to my dealer (not about cost) and he said the upgrade cannot be done remotely. He must be present.I'm beginning to think this won't happen at my house!!!:cool: 1.7.3 is really looking like the end of the road for my C4 system if these calculations are on target.It really depends, there are a few tricks to making them go faster and once we're familiar with the process we will be shaving more time off. Mine took so long because I had some embernet devices, some in mini-app mode, and I re-read the instructions more than a few times. I only had one controller and no z-stick (the slowest possible upgrade path). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Also, your dealer may be more comfortable to do at least part of the upgrade remotely after he has a handful of them under his belt.I myself wouldn't attempt one remotely until I'd done it at least a few times locally.There is a manual step that is required to cause the newly updated nodes to join the Pro network, which needs to happen for all ZigBee devices, so at some point, either the dealer has to be there, or has to instruct the homeowner on enrolling all the devices into the Pro network.This is because the Pro network is encrypted, and nodes are only allowed to join the network when the network is in 'join mode' for security.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedwilli Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Ryan, I have a large system 1 HC1000, 2 HC300's and about 7 System 2 Remotes with 45 dimmers. I'll work with my dealer at some point - but any plans to have the system 2 remotes supported in the near future? The multicast with my dimmers would really be nice - but I'm not up for spending a bunch of money replacing remotes that are less then 2 years old. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted September 13, 2009 Share Posted September 13, 2009 Jedwilli,I can certainly empathize with your situation, and understand your concern with not wanting to 're-buy' remotes, and I'm sorry, although I suspect you'd like the SR-250 if you were to try them.Unfortunately, I don't believe the v.2 remotes will have an upgrade path to ZigBee Pro. They were not designed to support Pro. Despite being called the v.2, they really aren't a 'second-generation' product. The improvements from v.1 to v.2 were to make the LCD more durable, and to change the buttons to be glow-in-the dark. Those improvements didn't change the amount of RAM or Flash in the remote, which are typically the limiting factors on whether a device will support ZigBee Pro.V.1 and v.2 remotes will continue to work in a 1.7.3+ system that is not on ZigBee Pro, which will continue to work, and there could possibly (no promises here, since things change) be an upgrade / trade-in program for later remotes, but whether there is or not, details wouldn't be provided for such a thing until much closer to the OS 2.0 release.RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 Updated post 4, we did our first test customer tonight. Small project, but wanted the team to get a feel for the update process. Took 1hr 13 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 The SR-250 remote is awesome.AWESOME. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted September 17, 2009 Author Share Posted September 17, 2009 The SR-250 remote is awesome.AWESOME.Yeah I like it a lot better than the V2 I had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tebery Posted September 17, 2009 Share Posted September 17, 2009 The SR-250 remote is awesome.AWESOME.Yeah I like it a lot better than the V2 I had.I am waiting on the 'cash for cracked lcd' program from the government! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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