Master Bedroom Audio Control

[RussellB]

Hi all,

I came into this setup, but brought it current by replacing a dead DVD player that also acted as an Amp and replaced an HC250 for an EA-1:

Master Bedroom

1) Ceiling speakers tied to the Audio Matrix Switch output (Audio End-Point 1, Video Volume 1)

2) Sony Bravia TV (No room control connections)

3) New Pyle Amplifier attached to a Bose Sound System (5.1) around the master bed (HDMI Out Video End-Point in the room)

The amplifier is an HDMI switcher as well so I use it to switch between the EA-1 (On-screen Navigation, Samsung Cable Box, Fire TV, Chromecast)

What I'd like to be able to do is sometimes be able to control the volume of the amplifier, and other times be able to control the volume of the TV (yes, the room is that big).

And still be able to have music selected in the ceiling speakers.  Is this too complicated a setup?

aTdHvAaNnKcSe <-- thanks in advance,

RussellB

[lippavisual]

2 rooms created, one for music and one for TV.  Use favorite rooms to swipe between each.

 

Or other option is custom buttons

[RussellB]

21 hours ago, lippavisual said:

2 rooms created, one for music and one for TV.  Use favorite rooms to swipe between each.

 

Or other option is custom buttons

Nice idea!  Let me play with that today.

[RussellB]

The receiver I'm using has a particular problem, more like behavior.  When it's on MUTE, it doesn't accept any other commands except UNMUTE.  So if I mute, then power off the room, it remains on mute.  I tried doing some custom programming but the "Current Mute is" conditional is disabled.

I think I can program it to respond to Mute changes, assume mute is off when the room is off and use a variable to store the state. 

Is there any other way?

[RussellB]

2 hours ago, RussellB said:

Nice idea!  Let me play with that today.

So I'm trying to think this through.  Basically I want to replicate the room so I end up with Master Bedroom that has everything in it and a Master Bedroom TV Room that has everything except the Receiver so sound control is via the TV.  I can't duplicate the EA-1 in each room so I don't think that's going to work.  I think a custom scene is the way to go, turning off the receiver and setting volume control to the TV.

[RussellB]

On 12/6/2020 at 9:35 AM, RussellB said:

The receiver I'm using has a particular problem, more like behavior.  When it's on MUTE, it doesn't accept any other commands except UNMUTE.  So if I mute, then power off the room, it remains on mute.  I tried doing some custom programming but the "Current Mute is" conditional is disabled.

I think I can program it to respond to Mute changes, assume mute is off when the room is off and use a variable to store the state. 

Is there any other way?

I ended up getting a Sony Surround Sound receiver to replace the Pyle.  It didn't have the same MUTE problem and works great.

[RussellB]

Ok, for posterity... I tried all kinds of combinations and couldn't get this to work:

1) Creating "Master Bedroom" and "Master Bedroom TV", setting endpoints appropriately, and programming POWER_STATE to turn off the other room respectively left me in a spot where without the Receiver being used I couldn't change sources (Control 4, Optimum Cable, Amazon Fire Stick, Roku) or control those sources.
2) The Receiver is responsible for changing inputs so trying to use the stand-by pass-thru of this particular receiver only passes through the last selected hdmi port.  I was thinking maybe using an HDMI switch to feed the receiver to get past this.
3) Even with the end points setup I still couldn't control the TV audio, or the currently selected device "Master Bedroom TV->Optimum" wouldn't control the cable box.  
4) Master Bedroom has no equipment in it except for the endpoints.  
 

I may attack this at another time but for now, I can live with it.  It's a weird setup in the Master Bedroom.  There's also ceiling speakers fed from an Audio Matrix Switch, as well as a Bose surround sound around the bed now being fed by the Sony amp.