Dinushan Paranavithana Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I need some suggestions for Control4 compatible streaming players which are supported outside USA. I should be able to control the streaming player from the Control4 app. I need to watch youtube, Netflix and etc... I have been using Apple TV and it sucks big time when it comes to Control4 integration. Apple TV keeps disconnecting whenever a new update arrives. Every time it gets disconnected, I need to reset Apple TV and reupdate. With the most recent IOS update, even though it displays that the C4 remote is getting connected, it cannot be controlled. I'm looking for a good streaming player, where the C4 integration is stable and doesn't get disconnected due to updates and etc.... Thank you Dinushan Paranavithana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thepritch88 Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 I think Roku, nvidia shield and Fire TV are probably the most popular, not sure if any of them are available in your region though. Chowmain do a driver that works with a lot of android tv boxes but I have no experience with it Matt Lowe and Andrew luecke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 AppleTV = IR integration, period. IP doesn't add any benefit anyway. Use an IR driver and it'll work just fine. Android TV is likely available, and the above mentioned driver is excellent. Best integration is probably Roku, but as per above post I can't comment on availability. Amr and Matt Lowe 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 My favorite is the Chromecast with Google TV. Supports 4k HDR and is bang for buck if you're after streaming services. Works great with the following driver. https://www.chowmainsoft.com/android Matt Lowe 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted March 10, 2022 Share Posted March 10, 2022 41 minutes ago, alanchow said: My favorite is the Chromecast with Google TV. Just watch how much data the Chromecast uses... My oldest was living in the basement with his family a while back, and his wife streamed YouTube videos over Chromecast, and it *REALLY* sucked up the data. Caught it in time to not get dinged for overages, but the Chromecast used considerably more data on the network than the 2 Rokus which were used by the rest of the family. I ended up needing to restrict the Chromecast's data rate on the router. Just something to keep an eye on. RyanE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 3 hours ago, RyanE said: Just watch how much data the Chromecast uses... My oldest was living in the basement with his family a while back, and his wife streamed YouTube videos over Chromecast, and it *REALLY* sucked up the data. Caught it in time to not get dinged for overages, but the Chromecast used considerably more data on the network than the 2 Rokus which were used by the rest of the family. I ended up needing to restrict the Chromecast's data rate on the router. Just something to keep an eye on. RyanE Not something i care about since we have unlimited data. Most people over in Australia have unlimited data but pay for different speeds. RyanE 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinushan Paranavithana Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 5 hours ago, alanchow said: My favorite is the Chromecast with Google TV. Supports 4k HDR and is bang for buck if you're after streaming services. Works great with the following driver. https://www.chowmainsoft.com/android Hi @alanchow is it possible to connect a Chromecast with Google TV or Xiaomi Mibox to a Control4 Audio & Video Matrix switch to access it from multiple TVs? Also will I be able to take the full control of the GUI of Chromecast with Google TV using Control4 app from the iPhone just like we control AppleTV? (Hope it is not a must to have a SR260 or Neeo remote to navigate the operating system/GUI of the device) So are both devices controlled through Control4 over IP? Thank you Dinushan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinushan Paranavithana Posted March 11, 2022 Author Share Posted March 11, 2022 12 hours ago, Cyknight said: AppleTV = IR integration, period. IP doesn't add any benefit anyway. Use an IR driver and it'll work just fine. Android TV is likely available, and the above mentioned driver is excellent. Best integration is probably Roku, but as per above post I can't comment on availability. Hi @Cyknight Im having a 4th Gen Apple TV. Is it possible to control through IR? I tried once but it didn’t work out. Another isssue with ATV is that it suddenly turns off (The LED indicator turns off). Then it doesn’t turn on even with the ATV remote. Then I need to unplug the power cable and replug it to turn ATV on. This issue was common in multiple ATVs I had. Thank you Dinushan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Yes, it can certainly be controlled IR - look for Jessie Smith on here, and there's a 3rd party driver that has some added commands and works great. As far as the turn off - just set the appleTV to never go to sleep and you should nbe fine, though on both the C4 made and Jessie's driver, a press of menu and cancel right after each other usually wakes it up just fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 22 minutes ago, Dinushan Paranavithana said: Hi @alanchow is it possible to connect a Chromecast with Google TV or Xiaomi Mibox to a Control4 Audio & Video Matrix switch to access it from multiple TVs? Also will I be able to take the full control of the GUI of Chromecast with Google TV using Control4 app from the iPhone just like we control AppleTV? (Hope it is not a must to have a SR260 or Neeo remote to navigate the operating system/GUI of the device) So are both devices controlled through Control4 over IP? Thank you Dinushan Yes, yes and yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 52 minutes ago, Dinushan Paranavithana said: Hi @alanchow is it possible to connect a Chromecast with Google TV or Xiaomi Mibox to a Control4 Audio & Video Matrix switch to access it from multiple TVs? Also will I be able to take the full control of the GUI of Chromecast with Google TV using Control4 app from the iPhone just like we control AppleTV? (Hope it is not a must to have a SR260 or Neeo remote to navigate the operating system/GUI of the device) So are both devices controlled through Control4 over IP? Thank you Dinushan Yes. That is correct. In fact you actually get more controls than whats on the remote with transport controls in addition to navigation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 6 hours ago, alanchow said: Not something i care about since we have unlimited data. Most people over in Australia have unlimited data but pay for different speeds. Alan - Same in UK AP-123 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 11, 2022 Share Posted March 11, 2022 Am just tying to understand how u failed to get an IR driver to work? Were u using the correct driver? Jesse driver works, IR will never stop working whatever Apple do with tvOS! For me my favorite ever steamer is Xiaomi Mi Box, very cheap, I use it wired not WiFi with IRUSB and Chowmain IRUSB driver, great box, lovely Interface and with the proper smart DNS service, all US contents can be viewed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 2:04 PM, Amr said: the proper smart DNS service Hello, Please share with us the service that you recommend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 9:44 AM, Gary Leeds UK said: Alan - Same in UK Even in SA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/13/2022 at 5:36 AM, JR2 said: Hello, Please share with us the service that you recommend. SmartDNSProxy.com JR2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 3 hours ago, Amr said: SmartDNSProxy.com I don't think they're much different than other VPNs & DNS service from the US. So if you have one try it but make sure the Ip is swiped to the US, and you're using a US based DNS server. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 48 minutes ago, ekohn00 said: I don't think they're much different than other VPNs & DNS service from the US. So if you have one try it but make sure the Ip is swiped to the US, and you're using a US based DNS server. I have a great experience with them, they have a great customer service and they added a service for me that was not supported before in less than 48 hours from my request. ekohn00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/11/2022 at 3:04 PM, Amr said: IR will never stop working whatever Apple do with tvOS! Oh don't jinx it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 On 3/13/2022 at 7:20 AM, South Africa C4 user said: Even in SA Same here, though I can't speak for all of Canada. Some providers still 'state' a download limit, but unless you're talking bitcoin mining or (pro) server hosting (not talking about hosting something like a minecraft server)........nothing ever happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted March 14, 2022 Share Posted March 14, 2022 Just now, Cyknight said: Same here, though I can't speak for all of Canada. Some providers still 'state' a download limit, but unless you're talking bitcoin mining or (pro) server hosting (not talking about hosting something like a minecraft server)........nothing ever happens. Here in Ontario Bell and Rogers are unlimited in their high-ish end plans that have download speeds of about 200Mbps or more. Unfortunately they no longer allow you to see how much data you use - I would love to have seen how much I would have used at the peak of the pandemic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinushan Paranavithana Posted March 22, 2022 Author Share Posted March 22, 2022 Hi Guys, I bought a Xiaomi Mi Box S and tested it with Control4. I used @alanchow’s Android TV driver for the integration. It works well when connected directly and I even tested it through Binary MoIP using a Pakedge SX switch. Only problem I’m having right now is when I connect the Mi Box S to a Leaf AV Matrix, I’m not getting the sound from TVs in all zones. Any idea why this could be ? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew luecke Posted March 22, 2022 Share Posted March 22, 2022 42 minutes ago, Dinushan Paranavithana said: Hi Guys, I bought a Xiaomi Mi Box S and tested it with Control4. I used @alanchow’s Android TV driver for the integration. It works well when connected directly and I even tested it through Binary MoIP using a Pakedge SX switch. Only problem I’m having right now is when I connect the Mi Box S to a Leaf AV Matrix, I’m not getting the sound from TVs in all zones. Any idea why this could be ? Thank you I've never used the Mi Box Personally (but fairly sure it's one in our office Alan has tested actually). In all likelihood though, you need to go into the the audio settings and enable something like PCM/Stereo mode (it might be trying to output as TrueHD or other surround formats not supported by some TV's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinushan Paranavithana Posted March 23, 2022 Author Share Posted March 23, 2022 Hi @Andrew luecke Actually my AVR Sony DA5800ES is in my server room. The speakers are in the Theatre room to listen to music and video's audio which are connected to this AVR. I connected both Mi Box S & Chromecast to the Leaf AV Matrix. One of the outputs of Leaf AV Matrix (Zone 5) is connected to this AVR (HDMI Input GAME) to get the video's audio through the receiver. However, the audio of Mi Box S & Chromecast is not outputting through the AVR. But the audio of Apple TV works. I tried changing the settings of the AVR, but I couldn't figure it out yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 hours ago, Dinushan Paranavithana said: Hi @Andrew luecke Actually my AVR Sony DA5800ES is in my server room. The speakers are in the Theatre room to listen to music and video's audio which are connected to this AVR. I connected both Mi Box S & Chromecast to the Leaf AV Matrix. One of the outputs of Leaf AV Matrix (Zone 5) is connected to this AVR (HDMI Input GAME) to get the video's audio through the receiver. However, the audio of Mi Box S & Chromecast is not outputting through the AVR. But the audio of Apple TV works. I tried changing the settings of the AVR, but I couldn't figure it out yet. Did u tried to change audio settings on the MiBox? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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