jwhitaker Posted May 30, 2006 Share Posted May 30, 2006 come on guys how can you have a true control system with great audio swtching with no vidio switch. build one and i'll buy them in mass quantities! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattwhitehcha Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 you build it loser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AS2 Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 wow - this is a good use of the word 'loser'. you build it loserNotice the lack of punctuation, as if to say 'only a loser uses commas'. This is one fifth grader with an ax to grind. What is so striking about this post is how hurtful it is on so many levels. To begin with, a complete stranger called you a loser. That is trumped only by the fact that he didn't seem to like your idea of a video switch. Finally, he mockingly suggests that 'you build it' as if you make A/V components - as if! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slemay Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Wow - that has to be the first justifiable post from a moderator on a piece of FLAME that I've ever read... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maxspivak Posted June 6, 2006 Share Posted June 6, 2006 Amazing how both posters have 1 post each... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crvoss Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I just had a 11 room system installed with distributed video. WE used the sudio authority AVAtrix with 6 sources and 6 displays. It integrated without any difficulty and works like magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGo Delicious Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 We use NeoThings http://neothings.com/Avalon.html. Works great no issues at all. It's controlled via the serial port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumult Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 GoGo - Your comment about the neothings video switcher is the first I've heard of the product. Do you know how it compares to the key digital fat boy component video switcher? Also, does control4 already have a driver for the nething or did you have to write one yourself?thanks,tum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeffh Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 I am using https://www.audioauthority.com/indexh.php?ret=https://www.audioauthority.com/index.php?p=productMore&iProduct=45 with my control4 system for video switching. It works great and is highly expandable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGo Delicious Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 GoGo - Your comment about the neothings video switcher is the first I've heard of the product. Do you know how it compares to the key digital fat boy component video switcher? Also, does control4 already have a driver for the nething or did you have to write one yourself?thanks,tumHi,I do not not kow how it compares to either of the switches that you mention as I have not tried either one. I selected the Neo Things switch because I had experience working with their product before. They were installed in a music studio where I did some recordings and they worked flawlessly. Here is what I liked about them and why I chose them ( I have the Avalon).1) No moving parts - The front panel is glass and is a touch panel. Flat and Smooth2) Construction - VERY solid construction3) HD and Digital Audio in and out. Note that there is no analog audio or video in. Since I run all audio over optical this is not a issue for me. All video in is Component which I run to a scaler which connects to the TV via HDMI.The other reason I decided to choose the Avalon by NeoThings was the fact that 1) It was built in the US. I believe most of the parts are also manufactured in the US 2) They were somewhat local. Im in OC and they are in San Diego and 3) It's a small company. I TRY, and I STRESS TRY, to buy from US companies whos products are made in the U.S., especially small companies who have a GREAT product, that solid and reliable. I like to give the little guy a chance. There are ALOT of great products out there made in the US by small companies. Products that are better, much better, then the name brands. On a side note - I have the NeoThings Avalon in a audio rack. On day I was adding some gear and when I pushed the Avalon back into the rack I pushed it in the wrong way and the back Audio out for Zone 1 hit the rack post and snapped off (I have VERY thick digital audio cables with some CHUNKY aluminum connectors at the end). Let me tell you I was sooooo mad at myself. Well, I called NeoThings, told them what happened and how it was my fault and asked what could be done. Now get this, they said if I shipped it back they would fix it for free. Yes the product was still under warranty but I actually broke it. I said to the guy on the other end of the phone that since this product controls our entire system I can not be with out it. I asked if I could bring it down, since they are in San Diego which is not to far from me. He said sure. I take it down the next day and they fix it. They let me watch, I love to see how things work, and gave me a tour of their entire operations. Towards the end I asked who the owner was and if he was there. They guy that was fixing my Avalon and that gave me the tour was the owner. I thought to myself, WOW this is why I try to buy local.A few weeks later when I was having C4 installed I called NeoThings back and again I got the owner. I asked him if he had a driver for C4 he said no BUT that he has been working with C4 programmers and that they have been working on a driver. He said "have your installer contact C4 and ask for the driver." He also stated "C4 has the driver so if they say no ask to speak to a programmer." At any rate if you have seen my previous posts about my C4 install you will know that I was able to get a hold of composer and I did most of the programming myself. Since I am NOT a dealer I do not have access to any dealer forums or dealer support and because of that I could not call and ask for the driver. I ended up creating one which was no biggie.I hope this answers your question(s). I know I rambled on . .Sorry.GoGo D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tumult Posted August 2, 2007 Share Posted August 2, 2007 good info - thanks. the neothings product is a heck of a lot cheaper than the key digital and knox matrix switcher. in addition to the avalon, their website shows a second model with analog audio outputs.tum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGo Delicious Posted August 3, 2007 Share Posted August 3, 2007 good info - thanks. the neothings product is a heck of a lot cheaper than the key digital and knox matrix switcher. in addition to the avalon, their website shows a second model with analog audio outputs.tumYes. The second product is the Borrego. It loses the Toslink optical and keeps the Digital audio (SPDIF coax) and adds the Left and Right analog audio. Hope that helps.GoGo ! !"Hey, it wasn't me . . .I'm just a victim of fun!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sorry to bring up an old thread, but how much does the Neothings Avalon 8x4 cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGo Delicious Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Sorry to bring up an old thread, but how much does the Neothings Avalon 8x4 cost?It's I believe it's about $1000ish +/- a $100 or so. I was down at the factory again about 4 weeks ago and was talking to the owner. He said they are working on one that is controlled via IP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 My boss has a Neothings borrego 8x4 and he loves it, very good for the features and price, and cost a little less than a 4x2 Key Digital that didnt work nearly as well IMO! I will be buying a neothings for my house too someday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 couple of things. While there isn't a C4 "switcher" branded with the Control4 logo, they have partnered with avocation and are in talks with neothings. I personally think neothings make some of the best looking/working switchers around. So while you may not have a C4 switcher, you will def' have a great choice of directly supported ones from third parties. Hope that helps. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
takitezsdc Posted January 17, 2009 Share Posted January 17, 2009 you build it loserIs that really called for? I think he is 100% correct!! Why bash him? .........................so immature!I use a http://www.shinybowusa.com/shop/ but I bought mine off ebay from a dealer, for like $1,000 and it works GREAT!! Even HD!!!Also..........look here!! http://www.c4forums.com/viewtopic.php?id=1407Scott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoGo Delicious Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 you build it loserIs that really called for? I think he is 100% correct!! Why bash him? .........................so immature!Did you notice that is his only post? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 I hope they partner with neothings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neil12011 Posted January 18, 2009 Share Posted January 18, 2009 it's pretty much gonna happen, just when is the question. The neothings guys are great, and their switchers are freakin sweet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Do the neothings switchers (particularly the borrega) provide anything functionality-wise that other simple video-audio switchers do not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Not necessarily, but the RS232 driver is there already and its a great feature/price piece. You can switch 1080p component, spdif/coax audio, stereo audio, and composite video all in one place.http://www.neoprointegrator.com/borrego.phpOnly you can decide if it meets your needs or is "worth it". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted January 19, 2009 Share Posted January 19, 2009 Well Ive got someone making me a custom 8x12 component video, digital coax, stereo audio AV switch for about 1k and its an Autopatch so there are drivers for it so I was just trying to figure out if there is something else the Borrega does for me. All of my equipment is hidden away so the sweet look of the Borrega would be wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
videostorm Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hello all,My company, Video Storm LLC, is a control4 partner and we manufacture (in the USA) an excellent line of video / audio matrix switches. We also have C4 systems in house and have developed full functionality 2way LUA drivers for our CMX line. We have several unique features such as toslink audio and integrated volume control. Our dealer margins are excellent, and our technical support is best in class (work directly with designers). Just google "videostorm" and you'll find us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
K&J Posted January 21, 2009 Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hello all,My company, Video Storm LLC, is a control4 partner and we manufacture (in the USA) an excellent line of video / audio matrix switches. We also have C4 systems in house and have developed full functionality 2way LUA drivers for our CMX line. We have several unique features such as toslink audio and integrated volume control. Our dealer margins are excellent, and our technical support is best in class (work directly with designers). Just google "videostorm" and you'll find us Can you send me an email and dealer setup? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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