Look at cinemar or CQC for full DIY. +1 Don't shoot the messengers (dealers)....It is a Control4 policy. Composer Pro now requires a valid license to operate' date=' so even if you got a copy from ebay or something similar, it would do you no good. Composer HE lets you do almost any kind of programming...you'd just need the dealer to add new devices to the project and tell the system where they are connected.[/quote'] he didn't shoot any messengers (dealers). he just managed to have a copy of composer pro software online.. LOL