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I ended up having to replace a ClimateMaster Tranquility 27 (circa 2009) with a ClimateMaster Tranquility 30 a little over a week ago.  

I didn't have C4 when I got the unit in 2009, but we had installed enough EWC Zoning Control boards to make it work with the C4 Thermostats.

Now I'm wondering if I should have researched harder about how well C4 Thermostats work with this system and if there is a better solution than hooking the zones up to the UZC4 (and an auxiliary EWC board to get to my 6 zones).

My Geo only seems to run about 40 minutes before it quits running even if the thermostats and EWC are calling for cooling.  Not sure when my HVAC guy is going to make it out so I'm looking at the C4 side of things while I wait.

There are very few threads on HVAC here, but has anybody done anything like this recently, especially mixing new Geo units with 10-15 year old tech from EWC and C4?

"ZapperBox is already working on future models which will include the ZapperBox M1 Pro, which will be tailor-made for the AV Pro market. According to Gopal Miglani, the ZapperBox Pro promises IP controls and seamless integration with leading home automation systems such as Savant, Crestron, Control4, Elan, Josh.ai."

ZapperBox Helps You Ditch Cable With Their M1 Over The Air DVR | Audioholics

I've never felt the need for a driver with my system.  At least on my system, if it doesn't run when it is directed to by the moisture sensor built into the system it will never catch up.  It's not a system I think I will be successful trying to micromanage. 

On 1/24/2024 at 9:35 AM, drmark12pa said:

My dealer checked your link but did not see that actual driver needed for install listed.  Is there a driver listed on your page?

Pretty sure he is talking about Home Assistant, not C4?

6 hours ago, drmark12pa said:

There is a separate thread on the Bullfrog Spa that I'm following as I too want a Bullfrog Spa driver.

The driver supposedly was listed at the link below but my dealer did not find the actual driver only some of the info files:

https://github.com/garbled1/balboa_homeassistan

That is the old module, Bullfrog has used Gecko for a few years.  That's the one I need.

5 hours ago, rea said:

On this thread, I'm still more concerned with what has happened to the Sleep Number driver. It sounded promising back in November but still nothing. 

I get that, but the same driver author started this thread over a year ago, it also sounded like it was close, and nothing since.

Since this thread is more active I thought maybe I'd get lucky and get an update.

On 9/26/2023 at 8:31 AM, Ilushka85 said:

Its coming guys

What happened to the Bullfrog Spa / Gecko driver?

19 hours ago, RAV said:

First part of the TVs manual - "For Indoor Use Only"

Fair enough.  Now how do I handle the HDMI extender?  No real point in having one been outdoor rated and the other not being outdoor rated.

Would prefer to avoid a full TV enclosure.

Also, what's the latest on HDMI extenders for outdoor use?  I am probably within a year or two of replacing my video matrix.

Since this topic came up--I had an integrator tell me that if you have an issue with a TV that is not outdoor rated, and there is a loss, insurance might not cover it. Has anybody heard that before?

I trust the guy to not be blowing smoke about that, but not enough that I am that worried about a TV catching fire.

On 12/15/2023 at 2:55 PM, Matt Lowe said:

Control4 also made 2.9.1 there last os update. I can't predict the future but should be no reason to remove the iox from control4.

Yes, I will keep them as long as I can.  I do remember having issues with upgrades with one of my IOX numerous times in the 2.x era, so I don't have that issue any more at least.  So they are generally solid.

Dealer talked me into CA10 and two Core5.  I hope this is my last upgrade for a long, long time.  He had a good point about how long my IOX are in the tooth and really how much longer will they be supported (or with their age, give me issues).

1 hour ago, South Africa C4 user said:

CA10 as main controller

Core5 for Zigbee and audio

Rest depends on what further IO, OSD and music streaming needs you have

Both racks include IO Extenders already, and the number of concurrent streams should be relatively low (2-3 at most?).

Main central rack (best for Zigbee?) will have the CA10 and the Core 5/Core 3

Theater rack would be better with a Core 5 for aesthetics, but I would think I could make a Core 3 work.

Are you saying Core 5 is going to be noticably preferable to Core 3 for Zigbee by itself, or only for better audio capabilities?

Just thinking about the price difference to go with two Core 5 vs two Core 3. That's going to add up.

1 minute ago, RAV said:

Depends on if you're using the processor as audio sources into distribution.

I am, but there shouldn't be very many concurrent sources...I mean, I had HC250s and HC300s that I lost as I moved to OS3 and was down to one HC800 in my main rack, and everything is running properly now.  I would hope the audio capabilities of a Core 3 would at least be comparable to a HC800.

On 8/3/2023 at 2:40 PM, Andrew luecke said:

I will say, the core units and ca10 units are definitely  much faster.

One of our drivers (so far) actually detects and processor, and if it's one of those two, it doubles the speed of initialization (the driver requires a lot of connection commands)

Sorry for jumping in on an older thread, 

Is there anything you see now or on the horizon that would drive you towards a Core 5 instead of a Core 3 for optimal performance of newer drivers like you describe?

I'm in a position where I'm going to be upgrading and adding a CA-10, where I previously had two HC800s.  Because of the size of my Zigbee mesh, I need to decide if I am buying two Core 5s, a Core 3 and a Core 5, or two Core 3s.  I'm trying to avoid the cost of the Core 5 since these are just going to be secondary processors to the CA-10, and I think realistically with the size and complexity of my project, a CA-10 may be underutilized as is.

Found a match for the original on Ebay, connected everything back up and 3 zones were silent.  They were all zones that went into my AVRs.  Very odd.

Looked a little closer and those 3 zones, and only those 3, had gotten muted/infinite -dB.  Adjusted them on the screen and everything seems good now.

18 hours ago, Control4Savant said:

They need to find someone else. Most good dealers enjoy taking on existing systems. As long as its a good experience it will always lead to additional business later on. 

That was not my experience when I needed a rescue about 10 years ago.  And this was going through Control4.  They basically found one dealer to take it.  I am an hour away from a metro area though...

On 10/23/2023 at 2:57 AM, Rolecgroup said:

Even if they do allow you to become a dealer they may take it away at anytime...

We were a dealer (not massive) but ticking over, had about a dozen systems installed and then one day C4 told us no longer a dealer as didnt want to dilute for other installers, and that was it, no real notice, just chopped us off...

 

What happens to customers when the original dealer disappears? Most dealers don't seem to want to take on rescues, which is basically what the former customers become...

On 2/28/2023 at 11:56 AM, South Africa C4 user said:

I did actually… not many though - only 3 or 4.  I still use at least one of them.

Ok, well if my recollection is correct, switching a controller with them was a nightmare.  And that was when they were still alive.

On 2/20/2023 at 2:17 PM, South Africa C4 user said:

I’m not sure that is 100% fair.  I have got 10s of third party drivers (quite possibly over 100) and I’ve really never had any real issues with licence transfers (when changing controllers or with changes like this one - where I’ve very easily moved 5 or 6 drivers from Blackwire to DC (adding the new driver just worked - both in terms of licensing and programming)).  While I do recall some challenges a decade ago, even then my dealer was able to get everything sorted.  In recent years, licensing issues have simply been a non-issue for me.

I have also found virtually all third party developers to be extremely helpful…

Never had any Houselogix drivers did you?

Luckily, I only have the first party Rachio driver from Blackwire.  Control4 third party drivers have always been a shitshow as far as licenses go.

Interested.  Just got this setup today.  How do we get in line?

There is company right there in Austin I can refer you to if needed.  PM me.

So is the consensus then that if the plastic isn't defective, there is no reason to need to do a maintenance schedule of protective coating?  Even with the environmental conditions I described?

5 hours ago, 416to305 said:

That's not normal, I have 4 of these but the version without the keyhole otherwise identical and I've had them for 6+ years and they look exactly the same as the day I bought them, same color/finish also.  Do you live by the ocean or something as it almost looks like salt or corrosion.

Nowhere near the ocean.  But as we see from Ryan's response (this admitted manufacturing defect was news to me), it isn't normal.