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Also no one mentioned it but there is a new "Zigbee Health" Pop up window which looks pretty great. More of a dealer centric thing.
Also it is now WAY easier to get logs on devices without being a putty master.
 
Not very exciting but still much appreciated.
 
Still waiting for better camera proxy and native RGB color wheel, my two biggest requests.

You know they have proper nvidia shield and amazon fire stick drivers now. If that's what your trying to control you can probably avoid the IRUSB's

YES YES YES!!! This is actually probably the most important thing. I can't believe I forgot to mention that. Above all that is my biggest gripe about the current neeo. My girlfriend wont even use it and still uses the sr-260 mainly becuase of the lack of back lighting.

Neeo 2.0 needs to have
5 Ghz Wifi,
More buttons for transport controls,
a built in mic (I actually hate voice control but it is the future and we may as well implement it now)
And the capability to view cameras on it. For the price point of this bad boy I should absolutely be able to look at my cameras.
Dock should have USB type-C instead of the weird USB to 12v plugin that it currently has.
Backgrounds (the plain black background was really the best C4 could do? even the old neeo before C4 bought it had better looking backgrounds.
 
and that would be good enough for me. Keep the size of the remote and the screeen size / weight the same as the current neeo nails those aspects.
 

Neeo 2.0 needs to have
5 Ghz Wifi,
More buttons for transport controls,
a built in mic (I actually hate voice control but it is the future and we may as well implement it now)
And the capability to view cameras on it. For the price point of this bad boy I should absolutely be able to look at my cameras.
Dock should have USB type-C instead of the weird USB to 12v plugin that it currently has.
Backgrounds (the plain black background was really the best C4 could do? even the old neeo before C4 bought it had better looking backgrounds.
 
and that would be good enough for me. Keep the size of the remote and the screeen size / weight the same as the current neeo nails those aspects.
 

Well at least it's back. And now people can stop asking if it's back every 2 days lol.

Guess whos back. Back again.
 
Thanks C4. 

Guess whos back. Back again.
 
Thanks C4. 

optical out of your TV directly into the speakers. Easy peasy.

Nice work. These are a very cool hifi product. I've wanted a pair for years. Stoked the driver is free too.

Get 4sight. Stream TuneIn/Sirius/Tidal/Deezer/Amazon Music
done.

I view the fact that I can't access Ring on Google Home or access Nest on Amazon Echo as evil....

That may not be the "core" of their business but let me tell you C4 does a great job of integrating with most off the shelf consumer toys on the market. It certainly seems to have more drivers and compatibility than other systems. Does the home depot gear works as well at the C4 counterpart? No, not even close. But can control4 tie all that stuff together and make it work fairly good, absolutely.
I think its awesome that I can bring in C4 and tie in someone's Nest Thermostat, Caseta Lighting, Google Home ect... That's a huge selling point for me.

Oh I don't argue that. C4 camera interface/proxy is abysmal. Its got to be among the worst in the industry. Live viewing only? Only lower res supported? Yea C4 cameras and integration are a joke. We use Unifi Protect and tell customers to pass and not even get the cinegration driver to tie them in with C4 because there is no point with a camera proxy that bad. The unifi cameras don't even pull a proper preview image because the C4 proxy is limited. They basically need to redo cameras from the ground up.
Yes, it would be nice if a wider range of Z-wave devices were supported. I have used the Z-Wave dongle a few times with supported devices and it absolutely sucks. The range and reliability of the Z-Wave gear is terrible. I now think ZigBee is much better and more reliable than Z-Wave and even if more Z-wave devices were supported I would probably still push the Control4 Zigbee stuff because it is just that much better. The ZigBee kwikset locks compared to the same lock but z-wave are a night and day difference in reliability. 
MyQ is definitely a sore subject. This one baffles me, but I agree its crazy we don't have an official solution. (with a free driver). Really surprises me that they aren't official partners and don't work together. Seems like a no brainer for both parties.
And once again throwing in my vote for a color wheel. This is way over due. C4 needs to keep hearing this request.
 
But yea my biggest C4 hopes/requests are for an amazing camera proxy that supports everything (like ring/nest cameras) as well as rewind/playback, and a color wheel. Hard pass on the crappy Z-wave stuff and if you want MyQ integration it can be done (after jumping through a few hoops). 

Please tell me what professionally installed automation system has more end user control than control4 between the OS3 app, Composer Home Edition and When / Then?
Not Savant, Crestron, AMX, Elan, RTI..... Please tell me what I'm missing here?

Please tell me what professionally installed automation system has more end user control than control4 between the OS3 app, Composer Home Edition and When / Then?
Not Savant, Crestron, AMX, Elan, RTI..... Please tell me what I'm missing here?

Please tell me what professionally installed automation system has more end user control than control4 between the OS3 app, Composer Home Edition and When / Then?
Not Savant, Crestron, AMX, Elan, RTI..... Please tell me what I'm missing here?

I mean control4 is a pretty awesome system. 
I would still get in contact with a dealer to really know what you have. If you have the latest gear then absolutely keep it and get it working again.
If your system is ancient then perhaps rip it out and come up with another solution.
But the C4 multi channel amps are awesome and aren't cheap. It would probably cost less to keep it and get it working again than to start fresh.
 
And you can do some programming and such yourself using when / then or you can get Composer Home Edition and do even more tinkering.
No the system will never be completely "dealer free" but it allows the end user more freedom than most of the other professionally installed automation systems.

you can use system manger if you have it.

I always just use the official Control4 hue driver from the online database. It has feedback.
 
Still no color wheel though. That's not a driver issue more of a C4 issue.

Call me crazy but the nicest keypad (aesthetically) of the 3 pictures you posted is without a doubt the black C4 Keypad at the bottom. The white Control4 keypad with the god awful glass plate looks terrible. Hate the way those engravings look too. The C4 faceplates really make the keypad look great. Don't use other brands of face plates.
And dont get me wrong I understand that glass is a premium product and plastic is a cheap product but that palladium keypad is a total gimmick. The glass wall plate looks so small and crappy. The engravings aren't centered. That thing will look super outdated fast. I dunno, I'm not a fan at all. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for that finish. The pricing is out to lunch on Palladium. The only room where that would even make make sense is in a bathroom... but even then. To each their own though.
 
Depending on the finish of the house go with Snow white (WAY better than regular white) and if you can go with Midnight black (way better than regular black) with a stainless C4 plate.

Triad ones can stay perfectly in sync with each other and a EA3 at the same time without issue. This works just fine using "dumb" amps.
I do think its the yamahas causing the issue. Pure Direct setting should fix that.

Call me crazy but the nicest keypad (aesthetically) of the 3 pictures you posted is without a doubt the black C4 Keypad at the bottom. The white Control4 keypad with the god awful glass plate looks terrible. Hate the way those engravings look too. The C4 faceplates really make the keypad look great. Don't use other brands of face plates.
And dont get me wrong I understand that glass is a premium product and plastic is a cheap product but that palladium keypad is a total gimmick. The glass wall plate looks so small and crappy. The engravings aren't centered. That thing will look super outdated fast. I dunno, I'm not a fan at all. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for that finish. The pricing is out to lunch on Palladium. The only room where that would even make make sense is in a bathroom... but even then. To each their own though.
 
Depending on the finish of the house go with Snow white (WAY better than regular white) and if you can go with Midnight black (way better than regular black) with a stainless C4 plate.

Call me crazy but the nicest keypad (aesthetically) of the 3 pictures you posted is without a doubt the black C4 Keypad at the bottom. The white Control4 keypad with the god awful glass plate looks terrible. Hate the way those engravings look too. The C4 faceplates really make the keypad look great. Don't use other brands of face plates.
And dont get me wrong I understand that glass is a premium product and plastic is a cheap product but that palladium keypad is a total gimmick. The glass wall plate looks so small and crappy. The engravings aren't centered. That thing will look super outdated fast. I dunno, I'm not a fan at all. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for that finish. The pricing is out to lunch on Palladium. The only room where that would even make make sense is in a bathroom... but even then. To each their own though.
 
Depending on the finish of the house go with Snow white (WAY better than regular white) and if you can go with Midnight black (way better than regular black) with a stainless C4 plate.

Call me crazy but the nicest keypad (aesthetically) of the 3 pictures you posted is without a doubt the black C4 Keypad at the bottom. The white Control4 keypad with the god awful glass plate looks terrible. Hate the way those engravings look too. The C4 faceplates really make the keypad look great. Don't use other brands of face plates.
And dont get me wrong I understand that glass is a premium product and plastic is a cheap product but that palladium keypad is a total gimmick. The glass wall plate looks so small and crappy. The engravings aren't centered. That thing will look super outdated fast. I dunno, I'm not a fan at all. I certainly wouldn't pay extra for that finish. The pricing is out to lunch on Palladium. The only room where that would even make make sense is in a bathroom... but even then. To each their own though.
 
Depending on the finish of the house go with Snow white (WAY better than regular white) and if you can go with Midnight black (way better than regular black) with a stainless C4 plate.