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  1. I would strongly suspect a new remote, which will likely be Neeo based. My question to myself is whether I'm going to buy one. Neeo was well-known for having unstable software. Given the short time frame that has progressed since the acquisition, I question whether that issue has been resolved. But who am I kidding--I'm probably still going to buy one anyway!
  2. It's not based on a total lack of information. First, it's based on the idea that SnapAV bought Control4 to presumably increase its value. While I'll concede that is not a "fact"--I think we can all agree that it is true. A pretty obvious way to for SnapAV to increase the value of Control4 would be to expand the dealer base. It's also based on the fact that SnapAV has its own dealer constituency to deal with, many of which are likely going to want access to Control4 equipment. Finally, on a related note, it's based on the fact that SnapAV is by its nature a distributor. Don't you think it would be odd for a distributor to buy a product, and then not distribute it to its entire dealer base? Control4 is going to say whatever they need to say to (1) keep their dealers from jumping ship; and (2) not cause the deal to fall through. I don't follow your logic here. If the dealer base expands, then naturally all dealers will face increased competition. I think that is a basic economic concept. Even if you compete only in higher market segments, there will still be a domino effect. For example, say dealer A only does high-end installs. And Dealer B does high end installs and small installs. Enter dealer C who competes against Dealer B on small installs, and wins some of those deals. How is Dealer B to make up for that lost revenue? Well presumably, now that Dealer B has lost revenue from small jobs, he will try to make it up by competing harder on high-end installs? Result: Dealer A and B likely lose money. I'll concede it's a guess because I don't work for SnapAV or Control4, and thus I'm not privy to their internal thinking. But it's an educated guess. I wouldn't equate that to a fortune teller. Finally, and most importantly: I see you are not willing to take me up on my bet! Just kidding.
  3. I know they have. But if they had a plan to loosen the requirements, you think they would state that now? I think we can all agree they wouldn't. Now, it might happen slowly, something akin to how lutron works. But that won't change the fact that the dealers are going to face significantly increased competition. For example, they might allow certain smaller systems to be sold by any SnapAV dealer, and reserve the more complicated stuff for a higher level of registration. But it's going to happen. And even if I'm ultimately proven wrong, which I doubt, if I were a dealer I would have some contingencies in place because my prediction is at least a reasonable likelihood. But I'll make it interesting since I'm confident in my prediction. Bottle of Mac 18 to whichever dealer wants to wager with me that within 3 years the dealer requirements are loosened in some fashion by Snap. 😃
  4. Yes. As I've repeatedly said. Although Snap is dealer-only, it is way less stringent. If I were a dealer, I'd be looking into alternatives because you are about to be competing with every electrician, alarm company, and contractor on the planet.
  5. Hunter Douglas sucks. Worse decision I ever made. I have the platinum blinds, which are particularly bad. I would go Lutron. They are expensive, but I guess you get what you pay for. If I had to do it all over again, that's what I would do.
  6. I think you misunderstood my post or perhaps, more likely, I just wasn’t that clear. Becoming a dealer for SnapAV is way less stringent than Control4. They don’t have nearly the same requirements. My point about consumers having access was that there is increased likelihood they will know someone who has a SnapAV account because there are way way more Snap dealers. For example, I know several people that would easily give me access. Now am I making an assumption? Sure, but I don’t think it is a giant one. It’s simply that Snap will open up Control4 to its current dealer base. I think that is a pretty reasonable outcome here, and in my opinion, the most likely one. If I’m right, no matter how you specifically think that will affect Control4 dealers, it’s going to increase competition, which isn’t positive news for current dealers. And even if I’m ultimately wrong in my underlying assumption, I think my underlying point still stands—this isn’t good news for current dealers. My assumption about Snap opening up the dealer base is at least a potential outcome that dealers didn’t need to worry about yesterday. For that reason, I would say this is bad news for dealers
  7. This has got be generally bad news for dealers. Presumably, Snap didn’t just spend 600 million to keep Control4 limited to its current dealer base. I would assume they will expand it to their normal customer base. It’s pretty easy to become a snapav dealer. So that means two things: 1. Way more competition to current dealers; and 2. Much easier accessibility to your average consumer to Control4, including ComposerPro. Good luck dealers!
  8. Getting back to the topic at hand, I think this is a positive development. Control4's remotes are in serious need of a re-design. First, they aren't exactly the most robust hardware (I've personally had 2 die on me in 3 years). Second, they just don't look that nice, especially in today's environment (although I'm not sure they ever did). Moreover, I would imagine some dealers have been complaining that they are losing business to Savant and even Crestron, given how much nicer their remotes are. I can only hope that C4 doesn't overcharge for them like they do for their touchscreens! Those are a complete ripoff, and everyone knows it. It should be a learning lesson for C4 to hear how many dealers push Ipads instead of C4's native solution. When Apple's tablets are cheaper than your own--you are doing it wrong. Hopefully they don't do the same with these remotes.
  9. Title says it all. Don't need recharge station.
  10. Do you need to use the "channels" screen. Our typical use case is to just hit "watch tivo" on the remote, and then use the Tivo guide to navigate. Is there a way to assign out tuners based on selecting a source on the remote?
  11. Do you mean your video matrix needs to support the concept of pooling? Or will any video matrix work--and it's C4 that keeps track of the sources? I guess my question assumed that some sort of video matrix would be used as otherwise there would be no point to doing this.
  12. Hi, Can C4 create pools of tv tuners and assign them out dynamically as needed? For example, I have a Tivo and a couple of Tivo Minis. My preference would be to use the main Tivo as my TV tuner source as much as possible, because it is faster and has a slightly less clunky interface. Is there a way to make C4 automatically assign the main Tivo when it is the first source requested, and then assign minis out as needed?
  13. So from my perspective, it depends how much of a tech guy you are. For me, I would never let one of these integrators install my core network devices. They might not be happy about it, but given the money this quote must be, I'm sure you could negotiate. Araknis is fine, but it's basically just SnapAV (a favorite integrator distributor)--and you probably won't have much access to it. I'd choose Ubiquiti (technically "unsupported" by C4, but you can google around--it's basically bullshit). Everything else, is pretty much standard for a C4 installation. I personally hate the C4 thermostats, so you may want to consider whether you'd want to do nest or ecobee (both supported by C4). As for in-wall devices, I find that I don't use them that much in my house--so think hard whether you'd really want to spend the money on them. They are cool looking, but ultimately, at least I find, that I don't use them very much. Also, an IPAD Pro is a little much for your bar area. Any android or ipad device would do. Dropping 1k for that device is way overkill. It also looks like you are going all panelized lighting for your system. Just know what you are getting into for that....It is going to box you in, in what you can do in the future. I would also think long and hard about where you want to have extra wires run. Plan a head for that. More Cat 6 won't hurt you. Also why an HDBaseT balun in the loft, but no TV? Finally, I personally like the yale lock better than the kwikset lock.
  14. Cool. That makes sense. Is it possible to centralize the 5.1 surround too? In other words, say you have 5 speakers + sub in your living room to handle DD5.1. Can those speakers be fed back to a multiroom audio system such that they would handle both 5.1 and whole home audio? Just curious really.
  15. Can you explain the delay adjustment issue? Are you talking about running TV over the distributed audio system? I guess I always thought of distributed audio as something different from say home theater audio. But can you use the distributed audio to do both? If so, I'm just curious, how would that work with 5.1 surround sound. Is the Zektor smart enough to enable 5 speakers in a room + sub when you are watching a movie, and pass the appropriate audio to each channel? If so, that would be pretty neat.
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