Larry

Thanks! I will. Wow, fast answer, this forum is great!

I have been away from C4 for a few years, but have moved back to a (formerly-new-construction) property in which the builder used a dealer to install a nice c4 system, but that dealer is no longer on the C4 wen site as being authorized. The location is Jupiter, Florida. I would like to find a new and close-by dealer/installer to upgrade my system (basically lighting only) and perhaps upgrade my home network too. One dealer in Jupiter responded to this thread in 2021 when another Florida resident asked the same question, and I will contact that dealer for sure, but I would like if possible some more recommendations, positive or negative. I had terrible problems with authorized dealers in New Jersey, two different ones, two different properties, so I know choice of dealer is key. And if anyone stumbles on this post that knows about New jersey dealers, I have the same question re a property in Scotch Plains, NJ ... I will post that question in a separate new thread in late 2024 when I am back there ... but just in case someone knows about Jersey too I thought I'd ask now. THANKS everyone. I used to enjoy this forum a lot -- I think I won "post of the day" back in February of 2017 -- and I look forward to being active again.

"Do you want to be rich selling to the poor or poor selling to the rich?" Great line, @chesterwilson. I've heard it said this way: "Sell to people who ride in limos, you ride in subways. Sell to people who ride in subways, you ride in limos" So true. Years of developing/selling software taught me this over-and-over. I wish I had listened and understood earlier. Despite GIYF, I couldn't find an attribution for the subway line. C4 will continue to struggle financially without a DIY offering that lives in symbiosis with the dealer model. IMHO.

Great advice re not putting everything in one closet! I have two condos, different states (I'm a snowbird) each about 2500 sq ft. One dealer spread the light controls around multiple closets (good), the other put 18 all in one closet (not good). Both houses have keypads in every room and hallway, and of course they are part of the mesh, so we got the 18-in-one-closet setup to work fine eventually, but it was effort -- C4 dealer support helped a lot. C4 advanced lighting scenes provide convenience, safety (falls from tripping over stuff in dark rooms kill seniors, seriously), and security. The system is so good, I give it A++. Once both installations went live after initial issues were settled, I have not replaced a single component. Zero failures.

Got it, thanks!

Thanks! I will be sure all fan wiring goes to Control-4 switches (in closets), not dimmers or keypads. Pounce -- I'm leaving this house feet first, in a box. The new owner can fix what he/she wants, since there will be Control-4 keypads everywhere where other people might expect a wall switch. And they can learn to love Control-4. I actually plan to leave the house to a charity. They will sell it to someone for money. The charity and the new owner can be angry over the lack of wall switches. In this little drama, I get to be dead. I do like the idea of leaving the fans on low all the time, never thought of that, great idea everyone!

Wow, great answers, so fast too. Thanks, Let's say I don't want to use the Control-4 fan controller. And let's also assume no lights in the fan, but assume it will be a DC motor. It seems that I just have the electrician run the J-Box wiring to any control-4 load-controlling device, either a switch in the closet, or a keypad (which can control one load, as I understand it). Now let's put an LED light in the fan. Same same, no more wires needed. In both cases, I use the remote (RF or IR) that came with the fan to control the fan speed or the light intensity, except for the basic turn-on / turn-off which I can do with a Control-4 scene. That works fine for me -- I am happy using the fan's remote for fine-tuning, I don't need integration with Control-4 for that, as long as basic turn-on, turn-off works with Control-4. I have specified Control-4 type wiring everywhere, so isn't that 3 wires always? Hot, Neutral, Ground ... everywhere? I wish I understood all this better, but I am getting by with the help of this community! The house is a condo being built in Jupiter Florida. Even though that is the South, in the apartment am living in nearby while waiting for the building to be done, I have not had to keep the fan on 24x7, even keeping the Air Conditioning fairly high at 78 degrees, I only run the fan periodically,

Yikes I have hit another question in this regard! So I told the builder 3 fans, one in each room, and he is installing J-boxes, letting me pick my own fans later. But now the electrician wants to but a regular switch in the wall, one for each in each of the three rooms, and I am saying NO -- I have NO regular switches anywhere, all my switches are Control-4 switches buried in closets, including these. The only thing in the wall in each room is a Control-4 keypad, giving me complete control over everything. Can I just have an ordinary Control-4 non-dimmable load switch used for each of these J-boxes for fans, and worry about the RF or IR controller later? To get started, I would just have the Control-4 keypad programmed to turn the fan on as part of the room scene, and use the fan's handheld remote to change speed. Later I would switch to Control-4 fan control. Will this work -- an ordinary non-dimmable Control-4 load switch simply to turn the fan on and off? Or is the fact that this is motorized load, not a light, a problem (like in the old X-10 days). Thanks for any help!

Thanks so much everyone! I am a big "fan" of this forum. (Sorry, couldn't help myself.) So RF remote, not IR, who knew? Got it now. Will proceed with one of the solutions proposed ... excellent. I am thinking 3 fans, basically one in each main room ... having them run really seems to make a difference here in Florida (in my temp rental place) even with the A/C on at full blast. I am new to this snowbird thing, not sure I like it, but at least there does seem to be two very-near C4 dealers. Thanks again.

Bringing back an old thread from the grave ... since I am trying to spec a C4 installation in a (new construction) small Florida condo, where everyone recommends ceiling fans (haven't had them before). So there seems to be (in this thread and others) two approaches: bypass the fan controller, turning the unit in to a dumb fan, and use the C4 controller, which will look just like a keypad in the wall, or retain the fan's IR RC capabilities and use an IR bridge that allows C4 script control. Every nice fan on the market seems to come with a controller and IR remote. Would greatly appreciate some 2018 opinions, updates. brand/model suggestions, etc.

Might as well add a cite site for the first topic too, something to read while eating your Razza pie: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2016/12/2016_the_year_in_public_corruption.html

Good luck! C4 expertise is strong here in NJ, along with graft as a tool of government, and giving NYC a run for its money in tasty pizza.

Luxul ac3100? Comcast? Hardwired EA3? Dealer unable to quickly solve problems? Sounds like my (soon-to-be-former) dealer. Are you by any chance in New Jersey? If so, send me a PM and I might be able to help (there are independent network consultants around here who, while not C4 dealers, know their way around C4 and are expert at WiFi vs. ZigBee issues, network collisions, etc. Worth every hour at $75 per that I paid. My system is now flawless, I had them do everything @knowitall recommended on this forum, plus Comcast tricks too).