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As the other poster noted, it's Google AI. Home Assistant sends the notification, but it's agnostic as to tech. Anything that can feed it a picture and a prompt can use it, and the info is just a JSON response. Would be straightforward to use it in a C4 app notification.

Thanks. It's fun, but not terribly practical yet as the tech is still developing. For instance you can tell it to give you license plate numbers, but it tends to hallucinate and give fake ones, even if you tell it "Provide a license plate number but only if you are SURE." But you can see where it's going to be very cool (and intrusive). The one practical use i've found is that i've got it watching the backyard of an AirBNB to tell me if it spots two or more dogs (only one is allowed). It's pretty good at that.

Sort of a fun thing I'm doing with Home Assistant, but I'd think it should be doable with C4 if someone writes an integration. When Unifi detects an object (vehicle, person, animal), HA sends a camera snapshot to Google Generative AI with a prompt to interpret what's occurring in the photo. A notification is then sent to the phone with the AI text and the snapshot. It can be very accurate if the image quality is good and the prompt is good:

So there is an existing python library that a home assistant guy developed, someone could port it over. https://github.com/jeeftor/intellifire_hacs However, the WFM module is hilariously buggy and falls offline on its own, all the time. The relay solution mentioned above is a good answer.

I'm on home assistant for three properties. I don't agree about smaller ecosystem, it's larger. Definitely agree about lack of official support, and yes agree that you are depending on another community member or members for drivers. And yes - you are doing it DIY, it's all you backed by some good, some bad documentation, and a community support forum and Redd it

What everyone else said. Plus Home Assistant too, Apple Home, sort of (now I'll run away to avoid inbound missiles).

Pretty soon you'll be down the road I took - HA as the master interface, C4 as the "slave".

this is good advice. find out if there is an OEM control option you can use. I wouldn't spend a dime on a rental's C4 install.

thanks for the summary. Should be an interesting one. The noncompete is probably not a great claim, they are really tough to enforce, but if actual IP found its way into the product, that's a problem.

LOL

The Phyn is the assistant+shutoff unit. seemed desirable for a house that i'm not in/is left unattended for extended periods. On the moen, both shutoffs happened while i was out of town, so i learned about it from the app+irate phone calls from my wife, which was a definite home automation fail

Hey - well it's been an adventure. The Phyn has some pretty non-standard connectors to tie into the water line, which required the plumber to try and obtain them from their supplier. Phyn does a pretty poor job of explaining what's needed, so it went back and forth for a couple weeks, with calls and emails in to Phyn. Finally, the plumber said, let's just do the Moen Flo, we install all them all the time, and we have the parts. So I did that and the Flo has been "fine" apart from the power supply just dying for no good reason. app is fine, integration with my home automation is fine. It has twice now decided my daughter's bath was a catastrophic leak and shut off the water :). The Phyn - I finally did get it installed in our airbnb about a month ago, and guess what? It found a slow leak in a toilet. Got that fixed. I don't know one way or the other whether Moen would've found it too, but happy that the Phyn did.

Luma margin is better, no doubt.

There is always the chance that they might break it, but currently Unifi Protect is working extremely well.

It will be great to get access to all this stuff then. https://products.z-wavealliance.org/regions/2/categories thats what you meant, correct?

Because they support all the third party zwave and zigbee devices ?

Is the dealer who sold it to you involved? literally the only good thing about Luma (for the end user at least) is the support from Snap.

I mean primarily that the decentralized/distributed solutions like OTT boxes slapped to the back of the TV or just a Sonos have come so far that it doesn’t make a ton of sense to pay $$ for big distribution solutions except for a small and shrinking set of consumers.

I have no doubt it’s a mainstay. I’m sure you manage to convince clients to pay any amount of money for stuff they don’t need. Good for business.

dying use case - plenty of ways to do it cheaper and less finicky.

Ripping out and replacing panelized lighting does not qualify to me as an "easy way back." Nor does the prospect of keeping C4 around and using it only for lighting. By design, it doesn't want to talk to anything else. If OP is going to do it, at least pick the Lutron system for that reason, there is an API through which other things can talk to it. Do tell.

Better be sure you love C4, because there’s no easy way back if you do this.

Yes definitely, everyone should stop bitching about their $900 remote….

Sooner or later you may get to the point where you're wondering why you have C4 at all, apart from the sunk investment in light switches etc.

Agreed - the C4 is the bottom one. Except it's 5x the cost of the top one.