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Hi Andrew, thanks for the advice in the other thread as well I do use a single email address, that might be the issue, I will try. As always, thanks for the advice. I will ask the C4 installer to add the wakeup agent. It should work I think. For the bedroom we have a Triad amplifier, which is part of Control4 I belive, and everything is controlled through C4. Thanks again.

Hi Andrew, thanks, that was great advice, it worked, My mistake, so far I just pushed the > symbol to open up the color options.

Hi, I was checking some of the intro videos on https://www.control4.com/os3/getting-the-most-out-of-os3 but it seems some of the functionality is not available, for example, on my android app, I don't see any button to add/\ new streaming services, or to start a timer or set an alarm. Is this only available through the touchscreen? Aside from that, when I click on devices in https://customer.control4.com/notifications I don't see my current phone listed (it only has some of my previous phones and the integrator's phone). Can that be a reason as well, why I don't see some of the functionality? Interestingly, my current device does show up under https://customer.control4.com/account/users-devices My front lock is supposed to send a push when the door opens but it doesn't work. I wonder if that is related to my device not showing up in the notifications site Thanks

Hi, I bought the Kasa driver through my C4 installer. I have a few strip lights (KL420L5). When I check the the lights on the C4 app, I see the option the change color (although it's not a color wheel but a color bar) but I don't see the Extras tab (with special effects, mentioned on the chowmain kasa site). The striplight has functionality for light effects (I have used it through the kasa app). I asked my C4 integrator about that, and he mentioned V2 of the driver doesn't support extras and therefore hides the extras option. He quoted a line from the website: Hide Extras on lights without extras (Light V2) I think he misread that message. It seems clear that the Extras ar hidden on lights that don't support it. Is this correct? Also what can be the reason the Extras don't show up. I cannot imagine the stripligut doesn't support extras (although on the list of compatible devices).

@Andrew H Thanks for he link. The use case would be spot lights in the yard to wash the walls and highlight some pillars and plants, as well as light to shine on the trees in my yard. The lights will be completely exposed to strong sun ( located in Texas) and some very heavy rains once in a while (as well as the sprinkler system).

@Cyknight Thanks, that would be idel but are those direct DMX lights are they mostly like stage lights rated for outdoor use? I couldn't find many outdoor DMX lights in a google search I checked the Mirus and Lotus, are they for indoor use? I might be mistaken, though. I also checked for outdoor-rated dmx encoders but they are also pretty pricy, DMX lights would really be useful for that too. My Control4 guy came to the house yesterday (for some unrelated things, to redo rack, install some more locks), and I asked him about their experience with DMX integration. It seems they are not very familiar with that (which worries me a bit). Is this common, DMX is not something commonly used and most C4 integrators don't have much experience with it? I also had a lawn guy coming yesterday, he suggested FX Luminaire, which supposedly has good integration with C4). Do you have experience with that brand? That would be easier, but I'm kind of interested in doing the whole DMX thing myself. @LollerAgent @mstafford388 Even more options huh So that one has direct integration with Control4s zigbee network (like the switches) and native support? Are they easy to program (light shows or so). I think they are for indoor use (can get an enclosure)? How much are they Thanks for the suggestion.

@LollerAgentok thanks, good job I'm really interested in doing it myself, especially when I want to add more lights in my backyard in the future. It will be cheaper than something like Philips Hue, right, where every outdoor fixtures is early $160+ . Did you also install outdoor lighting? Any recommendation on where to get RGB pot/spot/washers? How did you get familiar with DMX, youtube videos? Apologies for being so nosy

@LollerAgent Ok, thanks. You are control4 end user as well, right, not a dealer or integrator? Did you install all your light fixtures and LED strips, or does the C4 integrator mostly do this? For programming the scenes, can you do that yourself using Composer HE (another thing I need to learn)?

@Cyknight as always, great comments and advice. You are right. There seem to be so many ways to do it (I didn't really understand how to daisychain sets of pot lights, without decoder), Definitely much more scalable than Hue landscape lighting (although they did look nice). I guess most of the questions I have are not related to C4 but to DMX I've seen videos how to connect LED light strips to a dmx decoder but how would I connect a pot/spot/washer light to DMX decoder? Can only use lights with a special decoder? Do all RGB lights have a special connection? For advanced programming of the LEDs, create light show and such (nice for Xmas), can that be done using the C4 interface/app, or will that require a separate controller? I noticed there is a box inside the wall next to the door, I think it's prewired for something? Wonder if that can be used to get the cables inside. C4 guy is coming on Thursday, will check with him. @LollerAgent Thanks, does that one have additional options the red box doesn't have (without any feedback from other people)

@Cyknight thanks, and again apologies for all the newbie questions. I see Mirus is only available through a dealer. How expensive are they, ballpark? I'm still trying to understand DMX. Are the decoders connected to every LED on the outside, daisychanged and only one wire goes to the inside, or every LED or light will have a wire going to the inside and the decoders are thre? For the Domaudio, does it need to have the engineering solutions "red box" It looks that one is unavailable on Amazon and its HouseLogix site is unavailable. Are there any alternatives? For the Hue, I'm reading some posts on the forums here where people have trouble/issue with integrating it with the C4 driver. Do you have a similar experience?

@Cyknight oops, misread, pot, and spot From your experience as a dealer, do you install a lot of Zigbee lights/led-strips? Aside from Philips Hue, what other brands are good options for the lights and the HUB, with good C4 integration? I assume the EA3 cannot act as a hub.

Thanks again for all the input. I'm looking around but I cannot find a lot of Zigbee LED strips and/or lights. The only one I could find is Sengled. All the other ones are WiFi. I'm also a bit confused about ZigBee. Do I still need a hub for Zigbee light strips. I do have a bunch of wireless Control4 switches/dimmers/keypads, but they all seem to be directly controlled by the EA3? (or would need a CA1 for that). and what kind of driver will work with Zigbee devices? If go with WiFi, how many devices can I safely add to my home WiFi network without any degradation to my home network? I still like DMX; interesting to get familiar with. @Cyknight you mentioned you have RGB spotlights, any recommendations on brand for those? No chance Enntec will update the driver, right? I checked the Domaudio, but the Engineering Solutions "red box" doesn't seem to be available, is there any good alternative? Just to understand correctly, I can install the LED strips, spotlights spot lights on the same decoder (assuming enough channels) or daisychain them, but if use a wireless decoder, it cannot be the end of a daisy chain (I did see from different thread one that was only $80 or so). For wired, how long can the cables be to connect one DMX decoder to another one? I guess outdoor decoders are a bit different than indoor decoders? How are the wires typically go to the DMX gateway inside the house, do I have to drill straight to a wall or are there better solutions? @Cinema & Sound do you have any experience with control4 lights? Are these the vibrant lighting from the website? Are they very expensive compared to other solutions? Seems, the more I look into it, the more questions I have

@LollerAgent The control4 guy (new company), just updated it to the latest OS version a few weeks ago. I believe that would be 3.4.x? I will ask them if it's possible to update. They are scheduled for next week to install some additional locks and switches. I didn't expect the driver and such to depend on the brand of DMX decoder/gateway and the OS version. Thanks for the information. It seems the Domaudeo is a more popular solution than Enntec. Not sure why the previous Control4 integrator used this brand. They definitely didn't have much experience with lighting. I can use my current decoder for any additional led strips and lights, right? Only issue is getting the wires there, for an existing construction that would be a lot of work (and cost).

Thanks for all the feedback. I might have misunderstood about the cost of DMX and the intended use. Actually, I do have a DMX-controlled LED strip on the stairs. In the media closet there is an ENTTEC ODE MK3 gateway, which is connected to another box, guessing the decoder? I was not very happy with how it was setup though, especially for the cost. In the Control4 App, it shows up under lighting as 4 independent lights ( LED R, G, B, W), that can be individually controlled, no color wheel, no option for any light effect. Was pretty expensive too Apologies for my newbie questions, I was under the impression that if I want to go the DMX way, I should buy specialized DMX LED strips, but from the comments here it seems that is not the case, or do most LED strips conform to DMX standard anyway? For running wires from the outside, I need to drill through the outside wall to reach the decoder, which worries me a bit. I just bought a Govee led strip to test it out (not connected to Control4 yet), it works fine, but it uses Wifi (not keen have to enter my wifi password, no clue where that is going). Aside from that, are there any preferences to use Zigbee instead? I already have a bunch of light switches, dimmers, and keypads that use zigbee? I will definitely try out Wix too For the outdoor lights, nothing fancy, just a bunch of LED strips and some other accent lights, pot lights and such. As long as I can change the color depending, have some scenes for Christmas, Halloween, etc, I'm happy, some light effects would be nice, not sure if the neighbours would appreciate I'm ok to pay extra for decent quality but preferably nothing outrageous. @Cyknight Why not trust Govee for the outside? Does Anyone have experience with Control4 Vibrant?

I realize there have been many threads about LED light strips and bulbs but I'm still wondering about a bunch of things. I want to install some LED light strips, first in my house, mostly for ambient lighting, in kitchen, living room, bedroom. I don't need some fancy light show, just be able to change colors, turn on and off. It seems just some simple Zigbee of Wifi strips will work ( I see drivers for Govee and Wix). Those all seem easy, pretty cheap solutions. Are there any disadvantages of going that way? How do they compare to solutions with their own hub, like Philips Hue (I believe). I also read about Control4 new Vibrant lighting, I'm, sure they are way more expensive. I just don't see the benefit of using those, Am I missing something? Later, I also want to add outdoor light strips, bulbs, and such. Will that make a difference? Lots of the installation, I can do myself and then ask the Control4 guy to integrate the LEDs/lights Any suggestion is appreciated.