wappinghigh Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 I quote from JAP's website..."With HD/IP you can use 1 CATx cable to a TV zone to deliver the Just Add Power HDMI over IP solution and Gigabit speed Internet Services to the television monitor. Other distributed video solutions like HDBT only support 100BaseT network speeds to the TV zone. Just add a simple Desktop Gigabit switch in the zone and configure the network according to Just Add Power's Layer-3 Drivers and best practices techniques" Dumb Q/ maybe but Does this mean *any* shared gigabit ethernet? So that JAP shared ethernet port on the JAP VBS-HDMI-218A receiver appears for all intense and purposes just like a normal ethernet port on any network switch? I could use it not only for Internet TV but I could hook up a Dune or Oppo via ethernet to that port? A computer?.. A C4 controller? Even daisy chain another Cisco network switch?? How about the new Leaf's with ethernet?? or the other HDBT solutions mentioned.. Same deal?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 3, 2014 Share Posted December 3, 2014 Not quite - look at this functionality as it being another device to connect to a switch - it doesn' pass through networking like HDBaseT does, it's ON the same network - ie the line to your TV can be connected to a network switch, and your TV, AND to the JAP unit. Using JAP this way (in Control4) requires you use JAP's own driver for control (nothing wrong with that driver mind you) vs using for example a Blackwire setup.The true downside of the method is that you're dropping your video distribution on your existing networking - ie you increase the load on your exisiting infrastructure.HDBaseT distribution of networking remains isolated (you add a network cable from your existing switch into the 'transmitter side - one for EACH recevier you use) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ok So HDBaseT then is clearly cleaner and less load on the network.. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ok So HDBaseT then is clearly cleaner and less load on the network.. Thanks!NO load on the network (well pulling the signal from an HDD or Netflix excepted) HDBaseT JUST happens to use CAT cable to make the extension. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Ok So HDBaseT then is clearly cleaner and less load on the network.. Thanks! IF you want that cable to do both your video distribution AND networking - then yes. This is why Blackwire's JAP setup/driver is often preferable over JAP's own driver. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Can't find an HDBaseT setup that does Giganit Ethernet though ....sure there is the older 8x8 Leaf: but this is limited to 10/100..... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 (You may think why am I asking all this?) well it's because there are rooms in the new house that are difficult and costly to run more cable: but already have one cat5 port installed. So if I save on costly cable pull and share the HDMI and ethernet on one cable: I can spend on other gear Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 I'm still confused precisely what makes the Blackwire JAP setup so "special"? sorry! It's the way the driver controls the network switch right? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 Correct - the network switch is not (normally) connected to a router at all - the Blackwire driver controls the appropriate switch via SERIAL instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 (You may think why am I asking all this?) well it's because there are rooms in the new house that are difficult and costly to run more cable: but already have one cat5 port installed. So if I save on costly cable pull and share the HDMI and ethernet on one cable: I can spend on other gear But if you are trying to do it all with one cable you're increasing complexity and cost, so you might wish you pulled wire. I don't know how bad your pulls would be though. HDBaseT should solve that problem too though, is there a reason it won't? Not every room has to have gigabit... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted December 4, 2014 Author Share Posted December 4, 2014 Sure. Historic house retrofit.. Double brick walls. Second story. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted December 4, 2014 Share Posted December 4, 2014 What else needs a connection there that cannot work on ubiquity Or similar quality WAPs. Should be able to get to drop a wire in the ceiling for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 Wireless is not as fast as Gigabit right? I mean I get 80mb/sec downloads using ethernet but this drops to 45mb/sec using wireless: via the same router... See what I mean? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 yeah you can put a switch behind it. One thing to note is that if i recall, the IP devices shared through JAP must have a static IP address. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wappinghigh Posted January 1, 2015 Author Share Posted January 1, 2015 So JAP receiver<>5 port switch<>cat6 cable<> Cisco 300 series (configured with JAPCONFIG)<> router: would be sweet then...? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 1, 2015 Share Posted January 1, 2015 Make it a good 5-port switch, dont cheap out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin L Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Planet GSD-503 switch works great Also you can use the IPOE-E174 It has a POE input and 4 ports POE out. the SG-300 series would allow it to power 2 POE devices. IE the JAP Receiver as well as an HC250 via POE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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