turls Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 There's a thread about Tesla integration in the main forum, but maybe more cars can be controlled? Wonder how much you could really do that would be useful? http://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2015/01/15/researcher-says-progressive-insurance-dongle-totally-insecure/ But he hasn’t gone as far to actually mess with the controls of his Toyota. By hooking up his laptop directly to the device he says he would have been able to unlock doors, start the car and gather engine information, but he chose not to “weaponise” his exploits, he told Forbes. “Controlling it wasn’t the focus, finding out if it was possible was the focus.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 So, you can do the things you do with a "regular" OBDII adapter with the one provided by Progressive? No surprise there. There are apps to control car features on Android phones, for specific cars. It's probably possible, but you'd need some kind of interface to the OBDII adapter (Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.) and a way to get that data into Control4. The biggest issue I'd think would be that different cars offer different "features" over OBDII. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted January 21, 2015 Author Share Posted January 21, 2015 There are apps to control car features on Android phones, for specific cars. I wasn't aware of that. Makes sense. I thought maybe the control part was "news" but maybe its just the insecurity that's "news". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted January 21, 2015 Share Posted January 21, 2015 I don't think either is news. These dongles are like plugging a gsm or WiFi dongle into an Ethernet port in your home or office and complaining your Ethernet is insecure. Odb was designed to have a hardline into a diagnostic computer and not have anything plugged in most of the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 I'm using Automatic and I haven't heard anything about it being insecure, and face it if we only used ports the way they were supposed/designed to be used then HA would be a lot less interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 A friend of mine is a founder and CTO in this Vancouver startup http://moj.io/ Mojio is getting good traction with partners / retail outlets - https://www.moj.io/blog/ This would be a point of integration for Control4 and Moj.io to explore. Mojio has a published API and sees itself as a vehicle "hub" for integration services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vstar Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 A friend of mine is a founder and CTO in this Vancouver startup http://moj.io/ Mojio is getting good traction with partners / retail outlets - https://www.moj.io/blog/ This would be a point of integration for Control4 and Moj.io to explore. Mojio has a published API and sees itself as a vehicle "hub" for integration services. Looks very interesting, thanks for bringing this to my attention, nice to see innovative technology coming out of our neck of the woods. I will be very interested in seeing the Android app when it is released. Too bad about the monthly fees after the fist year but completely understandable because of the cellular network overhead. This is what makes it much more versatile and useful though IMO over the Automatic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Vancouver is indeed a great city for tech startups. Mojio has a real shot at this: they have some serious funding behind them and good momentum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 So, you can do the things you do with a "regular" OBDII adapter with the one provided by Progressive? No surprise there. There are apps to control car features on Android phones, for specific cars. It's probably possible, but you'd need some kind of interface to the OBDII adapter (Bluetooth, WiFi, etc.) and a way to get that data into Control4. The biggest issue I'd think would be that different cars offer different "features" over OBDII. RyanE This is where Mojio fits in: it's secret sauce is a platform that mediates the different features different cars have over the OBDII. It's API can be used by companies such as Control4 to provide a single point of integration and control over many different vehicle types. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 This is where Mojio fits in: it's secret sauce is a platform that mediates the different features different cars have over the OBDII. It's API can be used by companies such as Control4 to provide a single point of integration and control over many different vehicle types. That is awesome. If they can bring some significant portion of the available OBDII functionality / control for a significant percent of cars, that would be incredibly valuable. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 If they have built security into their module fRom the ground up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK1 Posted January 24, 2015 Share Posted January 24, 2015 And the Moj.io support for developers appears incredibly comprehensive. While I haven't signed up for it yet, it seems very well thought out - including a vehicle simulator! The developer aspect is definitely not a much delayed after thought like some products in this space. HouseLogix, Alan Chow and other C4 developers should check it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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