badjesus Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 Hey guys,So possibly stupid question. I haven't had to deal with this yet. As I mentioned in a few other posts, I am trying to build a system for my sister and law and her boyfriend for a house warming gift. I am building it with an HC300 I have, but I am curious on what is going to happen if it is just too slow for now and we have to upgrade to an HC250 or 800. Will the license carry over from the HC300? Or does the license follow director? Can I keep the HC300 as Director and just offload Zigbee and everything to a new controller? Or is that just asking for trouble? Thanks in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 ? There are no licenses on 300 controllers.If you're worried about 4sight etc - that's all on the account and will be there regardless of what controller is registered to it - so yes you keep them. Also relaise by the way that HC300 cannot be a master controller past 2.5.3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 my sister and law and her boyfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 Sister in law (my wife's little Sister) and her boyfriend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 ? There are no licenses on 300 controllers.If you're worried about 4sight etc - that's all on the account and will be there regardless of what controller is registered to it - so yes you keep them.Also relaise by the way that HC300 cannot be a master controller past 2.5.3Yeah for sure. I only upgraded it to 2.5.3. The hc300 was "license included" to my understanding. I can register it without him buying a license. So if we then upgrade to an hc250 or HC800 (bl) can they be used as a controller? For example I have an HC250bl that my understanding either needs a license or can only be used as a navigator. Is this not true?It would be awesome if I could just add it to the existing project without buying a licensed version of an hc250. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 you can register a controller with out having a license. The license is for the my home app, and intercoms. Controllers with out licenses the license was attached to the my.control4 account. If you purchase an hc250 or 800 without a license attached to the controller you will be in the same boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 28, 2015 Share Posted October 28, 2015 The ONLY possible license you may be thinking of is the old 2.0 License. Don't worry about that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 you can register a controller with out having a license. The license is for the my home app, and intercoms. Controllers with out licenses the license was attached to the my.control4 account. If you purchase an hc250 or 800 without a license attached to the controller you will be in the same boat. What do you mean by the same boat?So I think I am confusing things by talking about licenses. I know in the past, there used to be a my home license which may be confusing me. Specifically on the sku's, there are for example C4HC250 and C4HC250BL and my understanding is the differnence, other than the dramatically cheaper cost, is that one can be used ONLY as a navigator and IO, etc. It can't run director because it won't be able to register or check in due to a license issue. While the other one with a much higher cost can be used as a director. Is this not true? Was I fed misinformation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 28, 2015 Author Share Posted October 28, 2015 The ONLY possible license you may be thinking of is the old 2.0 License. Don't worry about that one.When you have a model of a controller with BL on it then, what does that mean? I thought it was licenses? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 -bl (1) at the end on controller sku means it has licenses included.Those licenses are MyHome Licenses and Intercom. Nothing more or less. Older controllers can run director fine, though 200/300/500 are limited to 2.5.3 max. 2.0 Licenses were required some very old HC series controllers that were pre 1.8. All I'm saying is just update to 2.5.3 and don't worry about that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 -bl (1) at the end on controller sku means it has licenses included.Those licenses are MyHome Licenses and Intercom. Nothing more or less. Older controllers can run director fine, though 200/300/500 are limited to 2.5.3 max. 2.0 Licenses were required some very old HC series controllers that were pre 1.8. All I'm saying is just update to 2.5.3 and don't worry about that -bl (1) at the end on controller sku means it has licenses included.Those licenses are MyHome Licenses and Intercom. Nothing more or less. Older controllers can run director fine, though 200/300/500 are limited to 2.5.3 max. 2.0 Licenses were required some very old HC series controllers that were pre 1.8. All I'm saying is just update to 2.5.3 and don't worry about that So the controller is all set up. I am running the HC300 as the primary, and a second HC500 as just a navigator. The 300 has director running.Navigator is working on the two controllers but I just tried to use the Adobe Air ap for windows and also the android app over WIFI on the local network and both are telling me "You need to have a license to connect to the controller on this device, please contact your dealer".But.... if you can't buy a myhome license anymore, are they now SOL on being able to connect to android? Do I have to get them a HC250BI? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 Welcome to June 2013? Yes - that is how it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 They would just be able to use on screen touch screens and the remotes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Brutal! If my account has an old my home license on it. Could I join their controller to my account even though it is in a different building and a different project? I am assuming I can't, because you can only register one controller per account? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 If you have the 'old' type license on your account, and a new controller now (ie doubled up on license) - you CAN assign THEIR controller to your account (you can rename accounts since a month or so) and create a new account for yourself. This WOULD mean you'd lose your 4Sight and HE licenses though (if you have any) as they would stick to the old account. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 HE license? My 4sight just expired. I'm gonna try a vpn and see how it goes. Hrmmm, changing accounts... That might be the best solution. Thanks again man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 29, 2015 Share Posted October 29, 2015 HE - Composer Home Edition. I understand that isn't too likely from your perspective - but wanted to add it for completeness if others are reading it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 29, 2015 Author Share Posted October 29, 2015 Well that was a whoops moment. lol. My HC800 does not have a license attached. So I need my account for my own HC800 to work. Somewhere I must have a licensed controller. I will just find one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badjesus Posted October 31, 2015 Author Share Posted October 31, 2015 Cyknight, do you know if there is any way to tell if an HC250 is an HC250BL1 without physically looking at the unit? I have them mounted behind TV's but I want to see if I can just take out a BL1 and give it to them, then replace it with a normal BL without a license. I have a line on some BL's that are used for super cheap. C4 offered me an old home site and intercom license. It is still super pricey though. Not worth it to put on an old HC300. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted October 31, 2015 Share Posted October 31, 2015 The only other way I know of would be to register it, then check under your dealer account to see what the controller type for that account states (Home Controller 2013 would mean licensed) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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