s1gnal Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 My project has been running flawlessly until recently, when I swapped out an older tv with a new LCD Insignia model. My dealer and I could really use some help.Here's the issue:the standard C4 driver for Insignia allows for the tv to go on and off, but it is not successfully switching inputs between video sources, so we have to use the separate insignia remote to change inputs.The C4 driver hasn't been updated in a few years, so I am wondering if we need to entertain a custom driver.Here's a thread in URC codes that Insignia supports...http://community.insigniaproducts.com/t5/Televisions/Insignia-TV-Remote-Control-Codes-Official-Thread/td-p/24094can any of you provide some guidance here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 URC (as in not the brand but the codes for generic universal remotes) codes are meaningless for C4.What you'd have to do is learn in the codes for the input changes. If the remote you have has actual buttons for each input - you're golden, but any half-decent dealer would have been able to do that. Lacking that, depending on how the TV works, a custom macro may be possible.This will largely hinge on if a) the tv doesn't auto-jump inputs that it doesn't see a signal on and if there is SOME way of discretely getting back to the built in tuner (ie a separate button to do so, or a channel up command brings you there). Lacking that - you'll have to start searching for IR hex codes and good luck there.One final option that you MAY have available is to check if Logitech has a driver for your or a close model - and see if it has discrete input codes. If it does, you could get whatever base (cheap) model from logitech you can get, add the TV there and use that remote to learn the codes into Control4. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have 3 different sizes and models insignias at home working with the URC codes. I will post my driver in a few hours. It is not completed though... I only use discrete on, off, Hdmi 1 and 2. That is all I need from a TV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 http://www.filedropper.com/tvinsigniadiscretecodesled Remember that the TV will only switch to that source if it senses a signal. If nothing is plugged in - it wont work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have 3 different sizes and models insignias at home working with the URC codes. I will post my driver in a few hours. It is not completed though... I only use discrete on, off, Hdmi 1 and 2.That is all I need from a TV. Really? Wonder which code you used? The motorola one? Or perhaps RCA or the Radioshack one? In this case URC stands for the generic term - not the company PS I edited my original post to make that a bit clearer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Really? Wonder which code you used? The motorola one? Or perhaps RCA or the Radioshack one? In this case URC stands for the generic term - not the company PS I edited my original post to make that a bit clearerI have an URC MX-900 so I used the codes from URC database. They have Discrete codes for 2010+ models. I havent tried on 2014/2015 models, but they should work as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 I have an URC MX-900 so I used the codes from URC database. They have Discrete codes for 2010+ models. I havent tried on 2014/2015 models, but they should work as well. Again - OP wasn't TALKING about URC the BRAND but as a short for universal remote codes - the codes you enter into your 'generic' remote or your cable/sat providers remote to control TV as well as box.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Sorry. My bad Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1gnal Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 http://www.filedropper.com/tvinsigniadiscretecodesled Remember that the TV will only switch to that source if it senses a signal. If nothing is plugged in - it wont work. Thanks @mallom - we'll give this driver a try and see what happens. One issue is that there aren't settings in the Insignia firmware that allow/restrict the tv to scan inputs to detect a signal. We are simply trying to alternate between 1 HDMI inout and 1 Component input. But it looks at the other three inputs that aren't in use and stops there. @CyKnknight - to your point, the Insignia firmware does auto-jump inputs that it doesn't see a signal on, which is irritating. Interesting approach re: the Logitech hex codes. Sounds like a long drawn out process to find one of those remotes, but worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 This is a great reason to choose a tv with discrete input selection Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wingzz Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Thanks @mallom - we'll give this driver a try and see what happens. One issue is that there are settings in the Insignia firmware that allow/restrict the tv to scan inputs to detect a signal. We are simply trying to alternate between 1 HDMI inout and 1 Component input. But it looks at the other three inputs that aren't in use and stops there. @CyKnknight - to your point, the Insignia firmware does auto-jump inputs that it doesn't see a signal on, which is irritating. Interesting approach re: the Logitech hex codes. Sounds like a long drawn out process to find one of those remotes, but worth a shot. Cant you remove unused inputs from the menu via setup? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1gnal Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 This is a great reason to choose a tv with discrete input selection Cody, I wish I even knew what that meant when I was considering buying this tv : )Should have know better than to think ANYTHING would be easy with Control4 : ( Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Should have know better than to think ANYTHING would be easy with Control4 : ( You're 'blaming' the wrong party here. All other 'control' systems would have the EXACT same issue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Cody, I wish I even knew what that meant when I was considering buying this tv : )Should have know better than to think ANYTHING would be easy with Control4 : ( Try the driver I provided you. It may solve the problem.C4's codes are limited IMO, but the wizard to create custom drivers is great! Your dealer should have created a driver using macros to switch inputs in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1gnal Posted November 20, 2015 Author Share Posted November 20, 2015 Try the driver I provided you. It may solve the problem.C4's codes are limited IMO, but the wizard to create custom drivers is great! Your dealer should have created a driver using macros to switch inputs in the first place. Thanks @mallom - my dealer is going to give your driver a try over the weekend. Thanks so much. If he can't do it, it would be great if one of you would be willing to work with me on it, for a fee, obviously. PM me if any of you would be open to that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thecodeman Posted November 21, 2015 Share Posted November 21, 2015 It's not a limitation of the Control4, rather that lower end TVs often dont have the ability to select "HDMI 1", rather they just have a toggle input selection where you have to keep hitting the input button until you get the input you want. Sometimes you can get lucky and even if the remote doesnt have a button for each input, discrete codes from higher model tvs may still work.. but there's no way to tell until you try it. msgreenf and mallom 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1gnal Posted November 22, 2015 Author Share Posted November 22, 2015 That makes sense Cody, and is exactly what is making this lower end TV a problem. Insignia supports an input signal sensing mode, but that would work if only the unit would recognize the fact that there are only 2 inputs in use. It continually adds a "default" input labeled "TV" as the first input in addition to the HDMI and Component inputs I am using which ruins the chances of a simple "Toggle Input" macro from working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 Thanks @mallom - my dealer is going to give your driver a try over the weekend. Thanks so much. If he can't do it, it would be great if one of you would be willing to work with me on it, for a fee, obviously. PM me if any of you would be open to that. Did you get things sorted out? Did the driver work? Let us know! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s1gnal Posted December 7, 2015 Author Share Posted December 7, 2015 Did you get things sorted out? Did the driver work? Let us know! @mallom - your driver totally worked like a charm. My dealer was able to implement it without any issues, and coupled with Insignia's "input signal sensing" setting, we were able to fix the problem. Many thanks! mallom 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted December 7, 2015 Share Posted December 7, 2015 Im glad it worked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgoc4 Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 On 11/20/2015 at 6:38 AM, mallom said: http://www.filedropper.com/tvinsigniadiscretecodesled Remember that the TV will only switch to that source if it senses a signal. If nothing is plugged in - it wont work. Hi , by any chance you still have this file? cause the link got expired or the file was deleted, thanks in advanced Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 Try again http://www.filedropper.com/tvinsigniadiscretecodesled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mallom Posted May 11, 2016 Share Posted May 11, 2016 tv_Insignia_Discrete Codes LED.c4i SMHarman 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fgoc4 Posted June 8, 2016 Share Posted June 8, 2016 On May 11, 2016 at 0:15 PM, mallom said: Try again http://www.filedropper.com/tvinsigniadiscretecodesled Thanks, they worked nice. Have a good one and thanks again for replying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dtoliver1977 Posted October 30, 2017 Share Posted October 30, 2017 Does anyone have a updated driver for an Insignia TV? I just swapped a TV and I am having similar issues as well. NS-40D510 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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