jcn Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Hello everyone, what will be the most simple way to control couples of shades with C4 and what cable should i run in preparation for future motorized shades. Any advise on this will be really appreciated. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SMHarman Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 If you have no manufacturer picked then a cat5 and a 4 core speaker will cover most bases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 9 hours ago, jcn said: Hello everyone, what will be the most simple way to control couples of shades with C4 and what cable should i run in preparation for future motorized shades. Any advise on this will be really appreciated. Thanks I am currently in process of building a house. I am looking at using either Hunter Douglas PowerRise or Qmotion shades. Both run on wireless. HD has their own proprietary network that interfaces with C4 and I am told that Qmotion has a new Zigbee enabled shade. So they need power if you do not want to run them on batteries. HD requires 14/2 stranded for their low voltage power, so that is what I am running to all my windows from an AV closet. Would love to hear what others have done recently or are doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
terminaldisclaimer Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 I hate HD. I have them in my home, and they suck. The wireless interface is a joke, and totally unstable. The only answer to this question is Lutron. They make hands down the best shades, period. If I had to do it over again, I would have spent the extra money on Lutron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEORY Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 3 hours ago, C4 User said: HD requires 14/2 stranded for their low voltage power, so that is what I am running to all my windows from an AV closet. You don't need to run 14/2 Stranded, that is way over kill 18/2 Speaker wire is manageable at the window, and on 18v would have marginal voltage drop to the shade in even fairly long runs. Using 14 Gauge just makes for an ugly install as the wire is much more difficult to work with at the shade. The NEW HD PowerView is much better then the old PowerRise (Platinum) products. HD also has hardwired motor controls if you want the best possible system. Still hands down better then Lutron. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 Qmotion Zigbee is either battery or cat, NOT 2 conductor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 8 hours ago, C4 User said: HD requires 14/2 stranded for their low voltage power I'd agree here - that's overkill. 18/2 will do just fine. As for HD wireless....it's not that bad, but there are some severe limitations on the powerview API that can create some big issues - Qmotion the new ZigBee stuff, well I don't like the ida of my blinds under lighting but to each there own. Of you are WIRING your blinds, WHY are you going wireless control though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 17 minutes ago, Cyknight said: I'd agree here - that's overkill. 18/2 will do just fine. As for HD wireless....it's not that bad, but there are some severe limitations on the powerview API that can create some big issues - Qmotion the new ZigBee stuff, well I don't like the ida of my blinds under lighting but to each there own. Of you are WIRING your blinds, WHY are you going wireless control though? Well...I may not be aware of my best options. If you were building a house, and the wife wanted the blind styles and fabrics offered by Hunter Douglas, how would you do it? I not saying they have to be HD blinds, just decorator variety fabric and style options. Thank you very much for any input. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 While not cheap - if it was solely up to me I'd use ESI relay panels (or local relays, depending on the setup) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEORY Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 10 minutes ago, Cyknight said: While not cheap - if it was solely up to me I'd use ESI relay panels (or local relays, depending on the setup) Which is what the HD hardwired product is, ESI is owned by Hunter Douglas and although also sold to other shade manufacturers this would get you the HD Fabrics for the wife and reliable control. If the windows can use a DC motor you can still do 18/2 wire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 28, 2016 Share Posted April 28, 2016 44 minutes ago, THEORY said: Which is what the HD hardwired product is, ESI is owned by Hunter Douglas and although also sold to other shade manufacturers this would get you the HD Fabrics for the wife and reliable control. If the windows can use a DC motor you can still do 18/2 wire. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted April 29, 2016 Share Posted April 29, 2016 Most if not all shade manufacturers use the same fabric offerings with very slight differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THEORY Posted April 30, 2016 Share Posted April 30, 2016 11 hours ago, lippavisual said: Most if not all shade manufacturers use the same fabric offerings with very slight differences. If you are talking roller shades sure, but the "ette" products from Hunter Douglas are far different then only slight differences from the others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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