South Africa C4 user Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 I’m also told that I won’t be disappointed... same caveat! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 32 minutes ago, nevets23 said: Still no word...? C4's silence on pretty much everything really makes me question this company's trajectory. I love my C4 system, however, Apple and some others are definitely starting to catch up. Control4 has built solid, steady growth, through the worst recession in our lifetime. It is constantly rated the top CI automation system and receives tons of awards for quality and service. If you question the company's trajectory based off this one thing, you are superbly shortsighted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 35 minutes ago, nevets23 said: I see new, very solidly built and reliable, devices released all the time that integrate with HomeKit, and in some cases, do things that C4 can't even do (e.g. reliable geo-location based tracking/automation). C4 isnt building hardware to do everything. They are building a platform that can integrate anything. So they did not invest in this particular geolocation service - Didn't someone on here build a homekit driver? So cant you use that driver to do this homekit/geolocation service? Re: this doorstation, its a 2n device, not C4. So they are testing to make sure when released, it works on their platform. From what I gather, you can get 90% of this functionality now using the 2n app for like $30/year or something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 oy vey. this thread needs to die. All the complaining about new products this and that. You guys do realize that these single companies are focusing on a SINGLE device and not thousands, like C4 does? Homekit. I don't see the big hub bub about it. Its still not a fully integrated system. Apple has been working on this for YEARS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran2712 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Officially out 1st week of April. 😬 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevets23 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, eggzlot said: C4 isnt building hardware to do everything. They are building a platform that can integrate anything. So they did not invest in this particular geolocation service - Didn't someone on here build a homekit driver? So cant you use that driver to do this homekit/geolocation service? Re: this doorstation, its a 2n device, not C4. So they are testing to make sure when released, it works on their platform. From what I gather, you can get 90% of this functionality now using the 2n app for like $30/year or something. They have a platform that can integrate a significant amount, but certainly not everything. With that being said, many other companies are building a platform that integrate other company products into one platform in addition to their own products. From a innovation/progress standpoint, I just haven't seen them do anything that makes me think their company model is going to be sustainable over the long haul if they continue down this path....for example, alexa integration is a fun and great feature to have, but certainly nothing that sets c4 apart or blows consumers away....same for "if/then" feature. Yes, the geo location is absolutely fantastic through the Homekit Driver Josh created, but that clearly isn't c4's doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran2712 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 They said this for sales and sales only - lost total respect for C4 i use it and invested in it - but feel total let down Name a better control system. Then I’ll listen. 🤷🏼♂️Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Can not at the moment - hence why I feel let down on this issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran2712 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Can not at the moment - hence why I feel let down on this issue Mate chill out it’s coming. It’s the best out there by a country mile. We all know this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevets23 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 23 minutes ago, thegreatheed said: Control4 has built solid, steady growth, through the worst recession in our lifetime. It is constantly rated the top CI automation system and receives tons of awards for quality and service. If you question the company's trajectory based off this one thing, you are superbly shortsighted I think you may be missing my point....yes, C4 is one of the best home automation platforms on the market at this moment. Doesn't mean it will stay that way going forward if they don't innovate, offer something truly unique/different, or at the very least keep the platform updated with the latest in mass marketed tech hardware/software. You cite the solid growth, etc., but C4 also hasn't had this many competitors in the past. The home automation market has grown and continues to grow rapidly now, so sustaining the same success, growth, etc. is going to be much more difficult going forward. Hence, my lack of faith given all of the foregoing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Kieran2712 said: Mate chill out it’s coming. It’s the best out there by a country mile. We all know this. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Trying - but I hate waiting for something that's been going on for mths - It's my age Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kieran2712 Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Trying - but I hate waiting for something that's been going on for mths - It's my age Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 That's harsh 😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Seems to me the delay is an issue due to the pent-up need for a good solution. If there were a dozen good choices nobody would care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Haha haha ha - 2.10 update sums up the testing 😜 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twmoonly Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Any official release date? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 3 minutes ago, twmoonly said: Any official release date? no public release date Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 1 hour ago, twmoonly said: Any official release date? Next share holders meeting - They have bugger all else to say We have said it before - Its software that can control other peoples stuff - Hue etc Come to thinking out of the box - They are buggered - I hope not, but it looks like they have no new idea`s Intercom App - Saved the day at the 2.10 update and lost the DAY big style at 2.11 update. Give me something I can hang my hat on - Not sales BS - I DO THAT EVERY DAY OF THE WEEK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivam Paw Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Kieran2712 said: Officially out 1st week of April. 😬 Please tell me this is true. I’m begging. Please tell me you didn’t lie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 Once again, this solidifies the argument that *nothing* should *ever* be pre-announced. Things are usually harder than expected, and take longer than expected. Control4 has not announced a release date for the functionality, anything you hear on here is speculation. RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shivam Paw Posted March 29, 2018 Share Posted March 29, 2018 9 minutes ago, RyanE said: Once again, this solidifies the argument that *nothing* should *ever* be pre-announced. Things are usually harder than expected, and take longer than expected. Control4 has not announced a release date for the functionality, anything you hear on here is speculation. RyanE My opinion: it’s fine to tell us your working on something cool...as long as you keep us updated on it. Right now it kinda feels like none of us know what’s going on and I assume in the future there won’t be be any pre announcements but I reckon the one thing that’ll sort everything out for some time is to know what’s going on, an ETA (rough, you won’t be held to it) and what exactly it’ll have: callkit? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevets23 Posted March 29, 2018 Author Share Posted March 29, 2018 Once again, this solidifies the argument that *nothing* should *ever* be pre-announced. Things are usually harder than expected, and take longer than expected. Control4 has not announced a release date for the functionality, anything you hear on here is speculation. RyanE Lol, you have a point, however if C4 would simply come out with highly requested features on a more frequent and timely basis, none of this would be an issue, just as it isn’t for many other companies in the tech industry. I don’t see how it being hard is really an excuse when other companies have a technology alreadySent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 2 hours ago, RyanE said: anything you hear on here is speculation. Which is one of the reasons this topic is so popular... in between cool releases (ok exclude 2.10.0 from that statement - but hey, getting 1 in 10 wrong is not a bad thing when you get 9 in 10 - very - right), we do seem to love speculation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 6 hours ago, nevets23 said: Lol, you have a point, however if C4 would simply come out with highly requested features on a more frequent and timely basis, none of this would be an issue, just as it isn’t for many other companies in the tech industry. I don’t see how it being hard is really an excuse when other companies have a technology already Geez, why didn't I think of that? Control4 should just release *more* requested features *more often*... It's *so simple*! We'll get right on that! RyanE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pounce Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 I heard Foxxconn was buying Control4. Kidding. Or am I? The dealer lock in prevents a release strategy that would support agile development or any form of continuous delivery. If your customer needs to have a dealer deploy and redeploy to solve a quick fix then people get upset. With dealer lock you are forever stuck with a more waterfall delivery format with ... hopefully more exhaustive testing. What could help speed up iterations is at least some customer freedom to update and of course reupdate with fixes. You could even adopt a kanban delivery approach where you have a delivery track that is more or less devoted to adding customer value. In parallel you could have your waterfall stability and architecture changes. my 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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