Lone Pine Farmhouse Posted December 30, 2017 Share Posted December 30, 2017 As our home renovations finally come to wrap, I'd like to integrate mag locks with passive entry. I'm still running into the following problems and would greatly appreciate your input! Residents (Unsolved) : I'd like to place RFID enabled key card or fob in our wallets/ on our keychains that could be swiped at any of the four main entrance doors. Shame is that C4 doesn't have anything to manage this. I think I have to go completely out of envelope with this being the best product I've found: http://www.sdcsecurity.com/ippro.htm Staff (Partly Solved) : I'd like to give them a mixture of RFID fobs or access codes that limit entrance times based on the user profile. So, same as above but also the use of the new C4 door station so that I could issue codes to people that don't need a permanent fob. I'm completely unsure of how I would link the C4 door station to the IP PRO Door Access Control software above :-( Products: https://www.control4.com/docs/product/ds2-door-station/data-sheet/english/revision/A/ds2-door-station-data-sheet-rev-a.pdf http://www.sdcsecurity.com/ippro.htm http://www.sdcsecurity.com/IPRW.htm (One without a keypad as C4 door station covers this) Guests (Solved): The new C4 door station seems to be a great solution for this. Whether at a driveway gate or a door - a guest could ring - and on touch screens throughout the house and also on enabled C4 remote aps - we will see a photo of who is at the station. This is a great integration - funny enough it would stay completely inside of C4 scope except a callout to IP Pro to unlock whatever door station we ask to trigger (more coding fun). And before anyone gives me any snarky comments about ask a dealer - lets assume I've asked several and that neither C4 nor the maker of this seemingly industry best door controller software are working well together :-) - I'm looking to the collective here for best practices and help. Or send me the contact of someone who can! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyPhy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The new Doorbird video doorbells have RFID readers. I'm not sure that this helps you though. I don't think they provide the integration you're wanting - at least not yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Pine Farmhouse Posted January 9, 2018 Author Share Posted January 9, 2018 @WhyPhy Too funny. Looks like Doorbird has the following attributes for Passive Entry: RFID Video, but lacks a physical keypad for entry by code. I would add that their website seems to indicate they integrate with C4 though that might not mean much. Certainly a step in the right direction. Thanks for the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyPhy Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 The new Doorbird D21DKH and D21DKV have a keypad, but it may be overkill for what you're wanting to do as it focuses on multi-dwelling units. Doorbird definitely integrates with control4 for doorbell video and intercom. Where I'm uncertain is management of user codes. My suspicion is that would all need to be managed through the Doorbird ecosystem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lone Pine Farmhouse Posted April 15, 2019 Author Share Posted April 15, 2019 Bump! Any new solutions or easy integrations on the market? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WhyPhy Posted April 15, 2019 Share Posted April 15, 2019 What I'm using for access control at my new house is an ELK security system integrated to C4. External (outside) Wiegand-compatible keypads / RFID readers provide the external access control, both for keyfobs and numeric codes. Each external Wiegand keypad connects to an ELK Alarm keypad inside the house. These UHPPOTE keypads are compatible with HID-style prox cards, which are a step up from the older low-frequency cards. Low-frequency readers are cheaper and more widely available/compatible, but I'm hoping these will work out. https://www.amazon.com/s?k=UHPPOTE+Metal+Keypad+IP65+Wiegand+125KHz&ref=nb_sb_noss Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 27, 2019 Share Posted April 27, 2019 I use IDteck Keypads that is integrated to C4 via Wiegand -> Serial using Houselogix Control Access Database (HCAD) and a couple of other free drivers for the readers. The reader have both keyfob and Access numbers capabilities, you set up either fob or access code within HCAD for every user, you can also assign time of day and day of week based access to every single user. Unfortunately they are out of this business and not sure where you can buy these drivers or who maintain them. Drop them an email. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustyloafer Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Could you not just fit the 2N Touch Keypad and RFID reader to a DS2 door station? https://www.2n.cz/en_GB/products/intercoms/2n-helios-ip-verso/touch-keypad-rfid-reader-125khz-13-56mhz-nfc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JEC Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 Could you not just fit the 2N Touch Keypad and RFID reader to a DS2 door station?https://www.2n.cz/en_GB/products/intercoms/2n-helios-ip-verso/touch-keypad-rfid-reader-125khz-13-56mhz-nfc Sorry off topic... but can that be added to the c4 ds2 version?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crustyloafer Posted June 17, 2019 Share Posted June 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, JEC said: Sorry off topic... but can that be added to the c4 ds2 version? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk I’m not certain but would be surprised if it did not work. Even if only the keypad functionality was recognised by the DS2 driver that’s all you would need as the RFID reader would just work internally and normally automatically be configured to operate the built in relay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 11 hours ago, Mr. Daniel said: What are you doing to support these now that HouseLogix is not offering continued support??!?!? I have a customer w/ one and the controller had to be replaced so all keys/licenses no longer work. I called SnapAV and talked w/ the old HouseLogix guys but they basically said 'good luck'. Has anyone found any other drivers that work these devices and support the database?? It’s currently working, need to figure out what do in the future like moving DS2 way, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanchow Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 We helped Control4 built a solution for MDU's a while back. Basically you will need the following architecture. Control4 communications server Control4 DS2 per residence Control4 DS2 per gate / entry The driver talks to a service on the communications server which will manage entry codes including available times. Codes will only work on gate / entry & that particular residence. This is all managed through a T3 webview application that is served off of the communications server. Here are some screenshots and installation guide for reference. The MDU guys at Control4 will be able to provide dealers with the driver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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