eggzlot Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 6 hours ago, anon2828 said: Just curious. How is there going to be a 4K on-screen UI when the specs for the EA series controllers only shows supported output of 1080? Maybe (hopefully) Control4 was sandbagging the spec and the boxes actually have the hardware to support 4K output, but if not some of the conjecture above just doesn’t make sense. New hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Mhh let me guess: We will get T4 gen. Touch screens! Please don't sue me, I am just guessing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I don't disagree that new hardware would be required for the alleged 4K interface (unless the capability is hiding inside the EA controllers and Control4 just never released the spec). That said, seems like an unusual upgrade / hardware roadmap. If Control4 releases a new Composer / Director / Navigator that requires new hardware they would put everyone out that has HC controllers AND current EA controllers. I'd imagine that mostly only new projects would go to the new hardware, though I am sure some of us would upgrade. Just seems like a painful path. Most companies (like Apple) gauge success and minimize costs by having everyone (mostly) on the same software platform. This would seem very opposite of that idea (ideal)... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Exactly WHY would an onscreen nav require 4K? msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Blazing claritySent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk ecschnei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 13 hours ago, anon2828 said: Just curious. How is there going to be a 4K on-screen UI when the specs for the EA series controllers only shows supported output of 1080? Maybe (hopefully) Control4 was sandbagging the spec and the boxes actually have the hardware to support 4K output, but if not some of the conjecture above just doesn’t make sense. Just get on board. All these changes are CONFIRMED. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Most have missed that one, who confirmed it ? I agree 4K on a GUI could be over the top 1080 on EA controls and GUI sounds like a good idea Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 Exactly WHY would an onscreen nav require 4K?Just because :-)Another reason is that if cams or intercom can be presented as 4k the GUI would need to switch resolution from keys day 1080p to 4k - if all is 4k it's smoother and 1080p intercom could just be upscaled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 9 minutes ago, blub said: Just because Another reason is that if cams or intercom can be presented as 4k the GUI would need to switch resolution from keys day 1080p to 4k - if all is 4k it's smoother and 1080p intercom could just be upscaled Good point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 50 minutes ago, blub said: Just because Another reason is that if cams or intercom can be presented as 4k the GUI would need to switch resolution from keys day 1080p to 4k - if all is 4k it's smoother and 1080p intercom could just be upscaled Very good point... my answer was cool factor, cool screen savers, works better on really big screens... none of which I particularly cared about but cameras are important! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 1 hour ago, Gary Leeds UK said: Most have missed that one, who confirmed it ? LOL. I'm mocking YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 I am only playing thegreatheed 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 It is interesting to note that most of C4’s own Experience Buttons have had a facelift (icon change) in the last few weeks which would make sense if a new GUI was coming out... I have mixed views on the new icons and am struggling to see the consistency (which I would expect for a new GUI). Some observations: 1. Some have gone all grey like the abortive icons that appeared when icons could first be changed easily in a Driver (a year or so before Experience Buttons appeared on the scene) - e.g. the Countdown Timer experience button. These are OK at best. 2. Some are grey when off and have some colour when on - I really like these (examples are the flame and pump experience buttons) - I guess that the UI Experience button always was (and still is) an example of this! 3. Some are relatively garish colours all the time (examples include the sprinkler Experience button and the Irrigation program Experience button where I think the changed icon is nowhere near as nice as the previous version ). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 1 hour ago, South Africa C4 user said: It is interesting to note that most of C4’s own Experience Buttons have had a facelift (icon change) in the last few weeks which would make sense if a new GUI was coming out... I have mixed views on the new icons and am struggling to see the consistency (which I would expect for a new GUI). Some observations: 1. Some have gone all grey like the abortive icons that appeared when icons could first be changed easily in a Driver (a year or so before Experience Buttons appeared on the scene) - e.g. the Countdown Timer experience button. These are OK at best. 2. Some are grey when off and have some colour when on - I really like these (examples are the flame and pump experience buttons) - I guess that the UI Experience button always was (and still is) an example of this! 3. Some are relatively garish colours all the time (examples include the sprinkler Experience button and the Irrigation program Experience button where I think the changed icon is nowhere near as nice as the previous version ). icons are always around, but the experience button going from grey to green was cool 5 years ago. Now its dated. the UI is long overdue for a major refresh. Circular (or linear) icons on a page to navigate just looks old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted May 15, 2019 Share Posted May 15, 2019 control4 and icons - never got this right yet - need to sub contract this to a design company. Wattsup 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casperspooks Posted May 16, 2019 Share Posted May 16, 2019 control4 and icons - never got this right yet - need to sub contract this to a design company. Wish they had Savant's GUI team; hopefully something comparable is on the horizon. Sent using Tapatalk digitaltrader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nerddude Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 If HC250 is no longer supported.Can we still use HC250 for IR and audio zone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drake0508 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 14 hours ago, casperspooks said: Wish they had Savant's GUI team; hopefully something comparable is on the horizon. Sent using Tapatalk Yes to this! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silvaskin Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Being new to relatively new to Control 4. What is the typical lifecycle for Controllers. When were latest generation HC's released as well as the EA's? When would we expect the next generation of controllers to drop? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Hc was 2012Sent from my BBF100-2 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 2 hours ago, Silvaskin said: Being new to relatively new to Control 4. What is the typical lifecycle for Controllers. When were latest generation HC's released as well as the EA's? When would we expect the next generation of controllers to drop? Last I checked c4 supports hardware longer than Apple. A new iPhone price wise is on par with a new controller. Stinks when you are EOL but they are fair about it South Africa C4 user and sonic30101 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Being new to relatively new to Control 4. What is the typical lifecycle for Controllers. When were latest generation HC's released as well as the EA's? When would we expect the next generation of controllers to drop?Since the ea series just updated to v2 versions I would guess another 1 to 2 years for a replacement of the whole lineup.However nothing keeps Control from expanding the ea series to ea5-4k versions for extra $$$Gesendet von meinem LYA-L29 mit Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonic30101 Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 14 hours ago, nerddude said: If HC250 is no longer supported.Can we still use HC250 for IR and audio zone? You can, just in 2.10.x If they do what people are mentioning on this post you will not be able to update the system to 3.0 while they are part of the project and you wont be able to add them back in after the update Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Control4L0ver Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 Be interesting to see what comes of this then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 17, 2019 Share Posted May 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Control4L0ver said: Be interesting to see what comes of this then Tick tock Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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