msgreenf Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Not having Apple Watch in the Project does not necessarily mean no WatchOS app does it?No Apple watch supportSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Doesn't look as life changing as a few of the promo videos appear to say IMHO.That's the great part about c4 if you don't want to update you don't have to! No cloud to force it on you!I will say fav SiriusXM channels to the home screen of my bedroom is pretty sweetSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk LollerAgent and South Africa C4 user 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ERDrPC Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Anything about upgrading the resolution of the cameras on the 4 screen and 4k gui? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4Iona Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 IMHO -- They really needed to release a new remote that supports voice commands with OS3. I realize the bought Neeo to be able to provide a better remote, they just need to step the timeline up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Thanks.Allowing customers more GUI customization and a new look is nice.But I think C4 missed the opportunity to actually change important things to keep up with competitors and technology:HTML5 instead of flash based:This would enable Control via Web interface and would be future proof since flash is more than EOL. (MyHome Windows app sucks) Change media management to be web based, - like Plex and Emby And finally support TV series!!!! More customizable GUI so far that driver creators can build custom pages via HTML for floor plans (neat for alarm systems), schedules, logs and text, custom graphics for energy management tank levels etc.... possibilities here are endless..The update of OS3 only seem to be made so that customers can change their system via the GUI and web (mycontrol4 login) without the need for Composer HE, so that there isn't any struggle between the dealers and customer in who f****** up the system/programming - nothing wrong in that per se, but again I do see it as a missed opportunity to make fundamental and necessary changesPS: down the road I guess composer HE will be gone. The current changes hint to that Gary Leeds UK and Bsmall423 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 15 minutes ago, blub said: HTML5 instead of flash based: new gui is not flash based Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Ahhhhh yeah!!!!Why not make that a feature....and talk about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, blub said: Why not make that a feature....and talk about it. Control4's touchscreen / onscreen UI has not been flash for literally *years*. MyHomePC was the UI from the previous generation of Control4 UI. Control4's UI is also not HTML5-based, it's 'native', Android-based on Control4 touchscreens and Android devices, and iOS-based on iOS devices, just like the previous generation '2.x interface'. HTML5-based interfaces have their own unique set of challenges on top of standard UI challenges, that a native (Android/iOS) interface doesn't have. I think Control4 has made the best decision for their UI in OS3.0. It's fantastic. Also, driver developers have had some limited ability to make HTML interfaces for Control4 touchscreens for some time, although it's limited to touchscreens only, not available on Android/iOS (phone/tablet) apps, and there are other limitations, in terms of having that UI integrate smoothly with Control4's native interfaces. RyanE msgreenf and Bsmall423 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatheed Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 33 minutes ago, blub said: Ahhhhh yeah!!!! Why not make that a feature....and talk about it. They did, years ago, with OS... what was it, 2.8, on EAs and T3s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
control4user007 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Looks like they updated the language on the site to remove “available now”. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blub Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 They did, years ago, with OS... what was it, 2.8, on EAs and T3s. Control4's touchscreen / onscreen UI has not been flash for literally *years*. MyHomePC was the UI from the previous generation of Control4 UI. Control4's UI is also not HTML5-based, it's 'native', Android-based on Control4 touchscreens and Android devices, and iOS-based on iOS devices, just like the previous generation '2.x interface'. HTML5-based interfaces have their own unique set of challenges on top of standard UI challenges, that a native (Android/iOS) interface doesn't have. I think Control4 has made the best decision for their UI in OS3.0. It's fantastic. Also, driver developers have had some limited ability to make HTML interfaces for Control4 touchscreens for some time, although it's limited to touchscreens only, not available on Android/iOS (phone/tablet) apps, and there are other limitations, in terms of having that UI integrate smoothly with Control4's native interfaces. RyanEI know that back then an new UI was android. However I obviously misunderstood that it is not flash based anymore - I thought it was flash on Android.Even though Android is better than flash I nevertheless think HTML5 would be better, more flexible and can be uniformly displayed on any device - missed opportunity here and I am not saying the new UI is trash, it looks nice! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 1 hour ago, msgreenf said: No Apple watch support Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk That is a bit of a bummer. Know it never really worked properly to begin with, but would have thought the approach would be to fix it instead of killing it. Although I am sure a very small use case, having volume control via Apple Watch poolside, and also when on Peloton cycle streaming to in-room speakers was/is very nice... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Any word on what is happening to the Control4 native Mac app? Was a "nice to have"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bsmall423 Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 7 minutes ago, anon2828 said: That is a bit of a bummer. Know it never really worked properly to begin with, but would have thought the approach would be to fix it instead of killing it. Although I am sure a very small use case, having volume control via Apple Watch poolside, and also when on Peloton cycle streaming to in-room speakers was/is very nice... I'm sure a suitable solution is coming soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 I know that back then an new UI was android. However I obviously misunderstood that it is not flash based anymore - I thought it was flash on Android.Even though Android is better than flash I nevertheless think HTML5 would be better, more flexible and can be uniformly displayed on any device - missed opportunity here and I am not saying the new UI is trash, it looks nice! There is no flash on android. Not possible Sent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Any word on what is happening to the Control4 native Mac app? Was a "nice to have"...They don't work any longerSent from my Pixel 3 using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 You can run the Android app on an Android emulator on your desktop (assuming the Play Store works on your emulator). RyanE msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brente Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 2 hours ago, Unsocialtoaster said: Confirmation of what won't work in OS3 ... Life Cycle Changes ... Looks like I have a control4 bingo! Ha ha ha! while the ui customization seems nice, if that’s all that 3.0 brings for now, no hurry to upgrade for most current long time customers given the expense of new hardware and the pain of incompatibilities... prabeau 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 This is a pretty brutal update. Losing MYHome on Mac is terrible, I use it all the time. Having to replace in wall touchscreens isn't fun and replacing my HC-250 (Which I only use as IR extenders) is pretty tough to swallow. prabeau 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 The swipe to change rooms feature works well, especially in a house with a few open floor plan rooms with different audio zones / lighting devices. The Audio Sessions functionality (not talked about much in reviews I've read) also helps tremendously in managing multiple audio zones, much better than the former 'Audio Zones' functionality it replaced. The Lighting filter options are also great, I've long wanted the ability to only show the lights that are currently on, when it comes to shutting down lights at night, it's quite handy. I know I'm not exactly unbiased (as a Control4 employee), but I love the new interface, and I ended up purchasing (yes, at employee cost, so not as big a hit) 5 additional touchscreens for my house, and ended up rewriting a driver for myself that wasn't supported (due to old tunerv1 interface). RyanE Matt Lowe, South Africa C4 user and msgreenf 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Watch OS App was shelfed since there was a low use rate, and quickly changing API for it. (I don't doubt part of the low use rate, was the instability of it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4Iona Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 28 minutes ago, chesterwilson said: This is a pretty brutal update. Losing MYHome on Mac is terrible, I use it all the time. Having to replace in wall touchscreens isn't fun and replacing my HC-250 (Which I only use as IR extenders) is pretty tough to swallow. I missed the touch screen part. Are you saying the touch screens I bought 4 years ago will not work in 3 or will the new interface just not update? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 24 minutes ago, RyanE said: The swipe to change rooms feature works well, especially in a house with a few open floor plan rooms with different audio zones / lighting devices. The Audio Sessions functionality (not talked about much in reviews I've read) also helps tremendously in managing multiple audio zones, much better than the former 'Audio Zones' functionality it replaced. The Lighting filter options are also great, I've long wanted the ability to only show the lights that are currently on, when it comes to shutting down lights at night, it's quite handy. I know I'm not exactly unbiased (as a Control4 employee), but I love the new interface, and I ended up purchasing (yes, at employee cost, so not as big a hit) 5 additional touchscreens for my house, and ended up rewriting a driver for myself that wasn't supported (due to old tunerv1 interface). RyanE Ryan, You say that you bought 5 new Touchscreens for yourself. Are you able to confirm that these are T3 Touchscreens...? I am about to email my dealer to order one or two new pieces of hardware and the answer to this question would determine whether I do so or whether I wait... Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 Can some one list some of the confirmed features, they mentioned 1000 enhancements ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chesterwilson Posted May 23, 2019 Share Posted May 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, c4Iona said: I missed the touch screen part. Are you saying the touch screens I bought 4 years ago will not work in 3 or will the new interface just not update? Touch Screens (5) - 7" In-Wall v2, 7" Portable v2, 5" In-Wall (FKA: Infinity Edge), 7" In-Wall (FKA: Infinity Edge), 7" In-Wall RevB (FKA: Infinity Edge) I think purchasing Control4 touchscreens moving forward would be a costly mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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