josei Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 hi everybody , is there anything new on this topic ? any update . thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 24, 2019 Share Posted September 24, 2019 2 hours ago, josei said: hi everybody , is there anything new on this topic ? any update . thanks again I don't know if this is relevant.But I just got a new Kindle fire and installed version 2.10 with no issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelC Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 @josei Control4's Android team has been looking into the issue. We haven't been able to pinpoint what is caused the app to be unavailable in Amazon's store. We reached out to Amazon, but haven't had a response from them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 2 hours ago, prabeau said: I don't know if this is relevant.But I just got a new Kindle fire and installed version 2.10 with no issues. 4 hours ago, josei said: hi everybody , is there anything new on this topic ? any update . thanks again If you load the Google Play store on your FireHD you can get around this by downloading it from there and not the Amazon app store. I'm running OS3 on one now and ran OS2 on it before the update...both work(ed) great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 Ok tried to get the new version and as "rea" said needed to install Google Play. That was a bit of a donkey show ( a Mac guy guess) but once installed, piece of cake Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josei Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 14 hours ago, rea said: If you load the Google Play store on your FireHD you can get around this by downloading it from there and not the Amazon app store. I'm running OS3 on one now and ran OS2 on it before the update...both work(ed) great. 1 hour ago, prabeau said: Ok tried to get the new version and as "rea" said needed to install Google Play. That was a bit of a donkey show ( a Mac guy guess) but once installed, piece of cake thanks for both comments ill try this tonight does any one have a link how to do that haha sorry im not that good on doing that things or I can get just one from youtube . once again thanks for the help ill let you know Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 25, 2019 Share Posted September 25, 2019 I just did a search on how to install Google play on Kindle. Download 4 files and installed in order of download. Had to sign in with Google credentials and ....done https://www.saintlad.com/install-google-play-store-on-kindle-fire/ This is the site I used, there are others Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
josei Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 12 hours ago, prabeau said: I just did a search on how to install Google play on Kindle. Download 4 files and installed in order of download. Had to sign in with Google credentials and ....done https://www.saintlad.com/install-google-play-store-on-kindle-fire/ This is the site I used, there are others thanks for the link and i try downloading it and it work but still isn't available just the os2 app im uploading a photo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted September 26, 2019 Share Posted September 26, 2019 Via that link's instruction I downloaded 4 files ....they end up in Doc's on the kindle Installed all 4 in same order as download. Play store installed and entered credentials and they were both there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelC Posted October 2, 2019 Share Posted October 2, 2019 Amazon got back to us. They did something on their end and the Control4 OS3 app is now live on their app store. josei 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I have an HC 800 and an older C4 touch screen that is not supported, so I replaced it with a Kindle Fire, pretty slick. Used the POE injector from original screen with a splitter. Have ordered a 90 degree connector to tidy up the connection. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 pretty much nothing slick about a kindle fire...you will see... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Well that would depend on your bank account, sure I would love a new C4 screen, sure I would love a new controller, It does all I need ..... It's no wonder DIY types take a s..t on this site.... Perhaps a clarification of "you will see" would be a tad more constructive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The battery life on the device will be bad. You'll say it's okay because it's on POE. But the device is not meant to be powered 24x7. The battery will swell. The screen will start to die. And the device will become unresponsive you'll say it's okay because you only pay $50 for the device but it's just crappy hardware. It will start to lag. And it won't do intercom. You'll say it's okay. But it's nowhere near as responsive as a control for touch screen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 And I'm all for DIY. Don't confuse DIY with just junkie hardware Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 The intercom is completely useless to me to start off with. I never said that this piece of equipment compares to Control4. $60 compared to $1400 like no kidding ! Beats leaving the much superior outdated C4 screen dead hanging there. It is as responsive as the app on my iPhoneX . Its just as fast as my old C4 screen. As far as longevity, will see, at the rate that end of life equipment is happening at C4 these days. I am probably 1 or 2 updates away from all my C4 stuff becoming part of the past anyway and that's fine. I guess I got a little excited at my amateurish accomplishment and should remember the level of expertise required to be relevant on this forum. My bad rayk32 and Amr 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 2:45 PM, prabeau said: The intercom is completely useless to me to start off with. I never said that this piece of equipment compares to Control4. $60 compared to $1400 like no kidding ! Beats leaving the much superior outdated C4 screen dead hanging there. It is as responsive as the app on my iPhoneX . Its just as fast as my old C4 screen. As far as longevity, will see, at the rate that end of life equipment is happening at C4 these days. I am probably 1 or 2 updates away from all my C4 stuff becoming part of the past anyway and that's fine. I guess I got a little excited at my amateurish accomplishment and should remember the level of expertise required to be relevant on this forum. My bad FWIW I think it looks good and if you are ok w replacing the screen every year or two go for it. I do agree C4 equipment is pricey especially the TS which are really just fancy tablets with full C4 functionality. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Neo1738 said: FWIW I think it looks good and if you are ok w replacing the screen every year or two go for it. I do agree C4 equipment is pricey especially the TS which are really just fancy tablets with full C4 functionality. Thanks Thats exactly how I see it plus I spend the winter in warmer climate, no need for a screen when absent. Cheers msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosenqui Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 10/2/2019 at 11:30 AM, JoelC said: Amazon got back to us. They did something on their end and the Control4 OS3 app is now live on their app store. I'm running the app (3.1.0.352) on a Kindle Fire HD 8" tablet. The only issue I've noticed is that the Kindle tablet shows up in the My Account / Users & Devices / Devices section of the customer web site, but not in the My Automation / Notifications / Devices section, and I don't get any notifications on the tablet. I'm getting notifications on my Android phone and they show up in the Notification History of the web site. Do I need to do something extra to get notifications to appear on a Kindle tablet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoelC Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 @rosenqui Unfortunately, push notifications are not supported on the Amazon fire tablets. Amazon uses a different push notification service than Google. Currently, we don't have plans to implement Amazon's push notification service in the Android app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rosenqui Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 44 minutes ago, JoelC said: @rosenqui Unfortunately, push notifications are not supported on the Amazon fire tablets. Amazon uses a different push notification service than Google. Currently, we don't have plans to implement Amazon's push notification service in the Android app. Good to know - thanks. At least I know it's not something I misconfigured. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suresoft Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 On 10/5/2019 at 7:19 PM, prabeau said: I have an HC 800 and an older C4 touch screen that is not supported, so I replaced it with a Kindle Fire, pretty slick. Used the POE injector from original screen with a splitter. Have ordered a 90 degree connector to tidy up the connection. Id be interested to know why my unsupported screen still works. It isnt added to the project as it is no longer available in os3.1. Yes i dont have intercom on it now but never used that functionality anyways. The reality is it functions as it was in 2.10 bar the intercom yet not added to the project hardware list. Not sure if you tried devices after the upgrade? My hardware TW7C0 to ea1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Suresoft said: The reality is it functions as it was in 2.10 bar the intercom yet not added to the project hardware list. Not sure if you tried devices after the upgrade? My hardware TW7C0 to ea1 Due to a back-door connection that is still available. It also will have issues with any new options, or even major updated drivers since 2.10.6 that simply won't work, and the list of those will simply add up. Plus, who knows when that back-door will be sealed up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 7 hours ago, Suresoft said: Id be interested to know why my unsupported screen still works. It isnt added to the project as it is no longer available in os3.1. Yes i dont have intercom on it now but never used that functionality anyways. The reality is it functions as it was in 2.10 bar the intercom yet not added to the project hardware list. Not sure if you tried devices after the upgrade? My hardware TW7C0 to ea1 No I haven't tried and probably won't . I am very satisfied with my current setup as it works just as well as my original screen did. Having looked deeper into the android world I actually make more use of this setup than before. Some very neat features. Yes yes I know MS nothing neat about a kindle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suresoft Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 22 hours ago, Cyknight said: Due to a back-door connection that is still available. It also will have issues with any new options, or even major updated drivers since 2.10.6 that simply won't work, and the list of those will simply add up. Plus, who knows when that back-door will be sealed up. At least it gives me time to save up for a new touch to replace it. Presumed as much with the connection still being available "temporarily". Who knows C4 may have tried to keep compatibility with older devices but due to serious os changes had no way to breath life into the now retired devices. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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