Jbbrenner90 Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 We currently have 12 of these in our house https://www.hikvision.com/en/Products/Network-Camera/EasyIP-2.0/4MP/DS-2CD2542FWD-I(W)(S) Our dealer is recommending this. https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-surveillance-trade%3B-310-series-dome-ip-outdoor-camera-lum-310-dom-ip-a--1 The only thing i see because i am inexperienced in cameras is the HUGE diff in MP.... What one would you do and why? Thank you in advance! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 5 hours ago, Jbbrenner90 said: We currently have 12 of these in our house https://www.hikvision.com/en/Products/Network-Camera/EasyIP-2.0/4MP/DS-2CD2542FWD-I(W)(S) Our dealer is recommending this. https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/luma-surveillance-trade%3B-310-series-dome-ip-outdoor-camera-lum-310-dom-ip-a--1 The only thing i see because i am inexperienced in cameras is the HUGE diff in MP.... What one would you do and why? Thank you in advance! First question - why are you looking to replace? If you have no issues with the current set up I’d leave it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbbrenner90 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 My dealer does not like them.We are adding more into our system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 44 minutes ago, Jbbrenner90 said: My dealer does not like them.We are adding more into our system. ok, but who is the customer, you or your dealer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 54 minutes ago, Jbbrenner90 said: My dealer does not like them.We are adding more into our system. Silly reason to replace them all. Those cameras are probably just fine. Unless you're unhappy with them, I wouldn't replace them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 Agree with everyone else. He is trying to make a buck. If you like their look and video quality and integration into your system leave them. Did he give a reason why he doesn’t like them? Otherwise it’s an upcharge on his part Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jbbrenner90 Posted August 24, 2019 Author Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 minute ago, eggzlot said: Agree with everyone else. He is trying to make a buck. If you like their look and video quality and integration into your system leave them. Did he give a reason why he doesn’t like them? Otherwise it’s an upcharge on his part Let me elaborate... Sorry should have included more info... We currently have 12 cameras and want to add more to other parts of the house. We are not replacing any just adding more. I am the customer. He really likes the non hikivision ones but im concerned that 2mp vs 4mp would be a big difference but maybe that number means nothing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Jbbrenner90 said: Let me elaborate... Sorry should have included more info... We currently have 12 cameras and want to add more to other parts of the house. We are not replacing any just adding more. I am the customer. He really likes the non hikivision ones but im concerned that 2mp vs 4mp would be a big difference but maybe that number means nothing. Ah ok, I thought you meant he suggested ripping out the 12 already installed I am 99% sure your 4mp cameras can have the resolution lowered to 2mp. So go into the settings, lower it, and see what it looks like with 2mp. My thoughts: 1) SnapAV isn’t bad quality, but is dealer only, ie you cannot find the pricing, he gets his mark up on the item and he makes money - I do not begrudge dealers for making a living. The Hikivision you can buy anywhere. He makes more money on product + labor to do the Snap vs just labor to the do Hikvision and he may not want to support a product he does not sell you so you’d be on your own whereas the Snap he may provide more support on the product (set up, firmware updates, returns if necessary, etc). 2) Re: 2 vs 4mp I am likely in the minority here but for security cameras the height/angle of camera placement is way more important than the MP. If the camera is too high up on the house and has the wrong FOV, 2 or 4 mp wont make out a face, a license plate, etc. Though I mentioned you can just lower your 4mp to 2mp to test it out, there are also sites that will show side by side comparisons of frames at different resolutions. Most of my security cameras at my house I’ve lowered the resolution and the frame rates because it is just not needed and I get more storage on my NVR. Some of the best rated affordable cameras are still 2MP Starlight Dahua cameras - they are supposedly the best night camera though they have a lower MP. Photography (not video) is a hobby of mine, and Megapixels are used as part of a marketing gimmick to get you to buy another new camera body. The size/quality of the sensor is almost as important which is why those 2 MP Starlight cameras are so highly rated. I forget but I think I once read the cover of Time Magazine used to be shot with the equivalent of 2 or 4 MP camera. This was years ago but still, it was a very widely circulated magazine! I am basically not answering your question with my rant above on megapixels but with hobby cameras it can touch a nerve! going with Snap you’ll likely get better service and a happy dealer. If you are chasing Megapixels the Hikvisions are fine cameras but then you may be on your own to install/support, etc? ecschnei and msgreenf 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 Installing a Dahua Starlight 2MP turret today! Excited to see how it compares with my other cameras at night. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 1 hour ago, LollerAgent said: Installing a Dahua Starlight 2MP turret today! Excited to see how it compares with my other cameras at night. I've got one here on the bench I've been testing, and it's impressive! I'm excited to get it up on the house in ~6 weeks and see how performance is outside. I haven't taken the time and effort to run a cord long enough to put it outside, and since I've sold this place and am renting it back I'm not really up for the potential mishaps that could be involved in pulling one of the installed cameras down and putting this one in it's place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 both brands are great and its really up to the both of you. just know if you use something someone is not familiar with it will take more time and money to make sure it works. I had hikvision cameras for 3 years now and just add 4 lilin and they all work great. The luma i have installed plenty and they work just as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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