ILoveC4 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 1 hour ago, chopedogg88 said: And right next to Conrrol4s guarantee on their Apple TV and Nest drivers hah Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk The difference is those ones were free. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 true. all of the drivers in the online database are free (with purchase of Control4 system and paying a dealer to implement it), but does that mean that we should assume that any/all of them could just crap out at any given time and we are SOL because they were free? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 There's not a lot Control4 can do when a partner either removes or changes their API without notification, or with short notification. That said, a driver based on a published API is much less likely to have this happen. RyanE msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 So why do you seem to be so against this driver while at the same time offering to sell/migrate people to the Drivercentral one? Sent from my SM-G975U using TapatalkI tell everyone the deal before I sell it. It's a customer's decision at the end of the day. But I give them all the info they need to make an informed decision eggzlot and Time2Jet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, RyanE said: There's not a lot Control4 can do when a partner either removes or changes their API without notification, or with short notification. That said, a driver based on a published API is much less likely to have this happen. RyanE Absolutely true - and if there was a published API, bMyQ would be using it as would the DC driver I’m sure. But there is not and so this is what we have. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 5 hours ago, msgreenf said: 10 hours ago, chopedogg88 said: So why do you seem to be so against this driver while at the same time offering to sell/migrate people to the Drivercentral one? Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk I tell everyone the deal before I sell it. It's a customer's decision at the end of the day. But I give them all the info they need to make an informed decision I missed the part where you actually answer the question - you call my work a “hack” and at the same time profit on another identical “hack”. Does “all the info they need” include your financial arrangement with DC because you are clearly motivated to put the customers’ interests ahead of your own. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Just now, bnet said: I missed the part where you actually answer the question - you call my work a “hack” and at the same time profit on another identical “hack”. Does “all the info they need” include your financial arrangement with DC because you are clearly motivated to put the customers’ interests ahead of your own. I don't see how you can say I put a customers interests before my own, at the time it was the only software option. Your driver has existed for under 24 hrs....if your driver were available I would have given people that option too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 and to add - for a lot of my customers I do tell them my profit margin on the driver. I can think of a few that know exactly how much I make by helping them. Do all customers know this no. But whats your profit margin? How many hours did it take you to make it? No business ever tells customers their profit margin.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 2 minutes ago, msgreenf said: I don't see how you can say I put a customers interests before my own, at the time it was the only software option. Your driver has existed for under 24 hrs....if your driver were available I would have given people that option too. And it took you 10 mins to call it a “hack” Another non-answer answer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 And it took you 10 mins to call it a “hack” Another non-answer answerAnd you avoided my questions. I answered yours. I'm done w this thread. Good luck. I wish you well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 22 minutes ago, msgreenf said: I don't see how you can say I put a customers interests before my own, at the time it was the only software option. Your driver has existed for under 24 hrs....if your driver were available I would have given people that option too. this - @bnet driver option was not available when you quoted @msgreenf response offering to switch people to a different driver. @bnet - Your driver is about 50% of the cost of the other one out there from Cinegration - without hands experience with yours (just seeing the write up) the Cinegration option has probably 2+x times the features with dedicated phone/email support from a staffed help desk running regular 9-5 business hours 5 days a week. So your price is fair and I am sure you'll find your customer base. So even with your option maybe some dealers, especially if dealing with a "hack" or "reverse engineered" solution - may prefer to go with the more expensive driver from a company who has been around longer, has more features and a dedicated support line. Maybe your driver will cause a little competition in the market place and that is a good thing, so I wish you good luck as a MyQ user myself the more options the better! The bigger question, why does MyQ waste time with integration partners like Clare Controls or Wink and do not bother with any of the CI channel - not even Savant, Elan, Crestron, etc. Seems odd. For me personally, after the Sonos debacle, and losing connectivity on my purchased Alexa/Hue driver, my current MyQ garage door driver with Cinegration is my last unofficial driver I'll buy - and that is just a personal preference. Happy wife and a working system is more important than trying to tie in every bit and piece of the latest and greatest to only have it crumble and be left with headaches. C4 has enough official integrations I think I'll get by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poseidonsystems Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Yea, I'm just going to do away with Myq integration planning on future projects... It's just going to piss off customers when API changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Wires are cheap, run them everywhere - future proof/what ifs/what could be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 I've setup the bMyQ driver last night at my house and it seems to work very nicely and was quick to setup.Question - Is there any way to allow for polling at durations of less than one minute? I notice that 1 minute is the minimum for your driver as well as the DC driver. Figuring there is a technical reason for that but wanted to ask anyways.Also it would be nice on the bMyQ driver if it would authenticate and discover the motors as soon as you press the set button on the username and/or password fields rather than having to go to Actions and press the button. Minor gripe but was not as intuitive as it could be. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bnet Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 35 minutes ago, chopedogg88 said: I've setup the bMyQ driver last night at my house and it seems to work very nicely and was quick to setup. Question - Is there any way to allow for polling at durations of less than one minute? I notice that 1 minute is the minimum for your driver as well as the DC driver. Figuring there is a technical reason for that but wanted to ask anyways. Also it would be nice on the bMyQ driver if it would authenticate and discover the motors as soon as you press the set button on the username and/or password fields rather than having to go to Actions and press the button. Minor gripe but was not as intuitive as it could be. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk re polling interval - short answer: there is no technical limitation long answer: Polling is a balance between keeping the driver’s device status up to date vs overloading the MyQ API. I have seen other apps poll as frequently as every 5 seconds –a setting that would seem to get your implementation banned (by mac/ip) within short order. 1-minute intervals seem reasonable but any feedback on this subject is welcome. re authentication action - on other drivers i had initially done away with the authentication action design. the issue was that, believe it or not, not everyone knows or enters their u/p correctly the first time. when the driver fails to authenticate after the u/p is fat-fingered a few times, the account can get lock. so, i've been using the read / aim / fire method for authentication. it is an extra step but only done once so i hope its not too much of a distraction. that's the reason anyway - perhaps a poor design choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mastor Posted July 31, 2020 Share Posted July 31, 2020 On 10/20/2019 at 8:44 AM, Dunamivora said: Chameberlain and MyQ probably finally shut off that stupid hack. It's going to be awesome. Call your dealers and ask them why they used a subpar integration that was known to be a hack and not an official integration. Rumor I heard is that MyQ/Chamberlain want to charge a fee for every open/close event and that is why Control4 is struggling with having an official integration. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdcllc Posted August 3, 2020 Share Posted August 3, 2020 On 7/31/2020 at 4:10 PM, mastor said: Rumor I heard is that MyQ/Chamberlain want to charge a fee for every open/close event and that is why Control4 is struggling with having an official integration. And that will be the day I de-install MyQ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tekki70 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 i would highly doubt there would be a fee for every open/close, but i could see an annual fee for the myq access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstafford388 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 They want to charge C4 a small fee for every time their server hits a MyQ server. MyQ knows that would be outrageous to hit a customer like that but someone has to pay for all those servers. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted August 4, 2020 Share Posted August 4, 2020 Encourage everyone here that wants MyQ integration to contact MyQ and make your feelings known: https://support.chamberlaingroup.com/s/email-us (choose Product Type as "MyQ" and Issue as "Does Not Work As Expected") I submitted a request, got an email back from a human saying that it was being passed to their Development team. Sure, we could be pessimistic and say that nothing will come of it, or if enough of us engage, perhaps there will be a change. If they can have Apple Homekit, Alarm.com, and Clare Controls integration (remember, Clare has strategic alliance with SnapAV who owns Control4), there is zero reason it cannot work with Control4. Maybe also a few strategic calls to SnapAV would help... THE L1ZARD KING and EverAction 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted August 6, 2020 Share Posted August 6, 2020 People have been complaining to Chamberlain Group for several years about their subscription based integration with IFTTT and others. They got smart and started offering a limited time free subscription. The plan is to get everyone hooked on the integration and then start charging. This is the world we live in, subscription for everything and planned obsolescence of equipment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anon2828 Posted August 8, 2020 Share Posted August 8, 2020 https://cdn2.hubspot.net/hubfs/2972898/Tech Pubs/Product Information /Door Locks and Garage Doors/Release Notes/Liftmaster Chamberlain MyQ Integration Release Notes (DOC ID 1615).pdf Seems straightforward with Clare Controls. Why Control4 is lagging behind on this is unbelievable. Yes, it is $10 per year to MyQ. I would pay it and I think the vast majority of Control4 owners would have no problem with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poseidonsystems Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I'm confused the drivercentral.io driver is still working for one of our clients Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cdepaola Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 6 minutes ago, poseidonsystems said: I'm confused the drivercentral.io driver is still working for one of our clients Yes, it still works and will continue to work until Chamberlain makes a change that potentially kills it. C4 has just asked for it to be removed from sale, I’m guessing on the request of Chamberlain. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted November 23, 2020 Share Posted November 23, 2020 I believe that someone posted a rumour that there will be good news regarding a MyQ driver in hte next few months. For whatever that is worth. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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