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Can't learn in the IR codes from a remote


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As per the title, I'm trying to read in a remote control for a (God help me) karaoke machine. I have created simple learned-IR drivers before so I know the procedure. I'm basing it off a DVD player (to get the shuttle controls, number pad etc) and I've got all my extra commands added in, I've been through the learn process (using an EA-5) and everything goes as it should. It asks for the 2nd blast, gets it, saves, moves on, looks great. At the end of it I had a look at the codes and they are all the same and very short (0000 006b 0000 0001 0002 1293 if that's of any meaning at all).

Is this remote of a weird kind that the EA-5 can't understand? Is this a frequency thing?

I'm considering trying to use a Logitech Harmony or an RTI learner kit and a T1-B+, then firing those at the EA-5; I have a weird recollection of doing that before with success. but if there's a way that requires fewer steps I'm all ears. I did contact the manufacturer (VOCALSTAR) a few weeks ago to ask if they had a spreadsheet of the codes, they didn't have anything for me.

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