Amr Posted May 20, 2020 Share Posted May 20, 2020 1 hour ago, Zuhair said: Does it integrate directly with a driver? Or via hub? Driver directly with C4 no hub, but it’s $250 a piece excluding taxes! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/21/2020 at 1:09 AM, Amr said: Tuya is hackable via Tuya-convert and again flash it with Tasmota or ESPurna and you have web or MQTT control Hi, I am buying motorized curtains but I can only find decent priced units that are Zigbee Tuya controlled. I am having a Comtrol4 system installed in 1 month and simply can't afford the very very expensive native Control4 curtains so can you please explain how I can get these to work through Control4? Thank you very much! :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 30 minutes ago, Homerlovesbeer said: Hi, I am buying motorized curtains but I can only find decent priced units that are Zigbee Tuya controlled. I am having a Comtrol4 system installed in 1 month and simply can't afford the very very expensive native Control4 curtains so can you please explain how I can get these to work through Control4? Thank you very much! Don’t get into Zigbee based devices as it requires some knowledge to hack and still no Zigbee to MQTT available, you will need some other ways to get it work with C4 and it will require a lot of programming mainly Node Red, etc. Instead look for WiFi based Tuya devices. Check these https://m.aliexpress.com/item/33013536157.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Ok thanks. The company I'm looking at also does wifi Tuya motors. How do you get these to work with Control4? I really appreciate the info. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 For C4 side search the forums for David MQTT driver and read through the settings, driver need to be added by a dealer, contact David for driver support after it’s installed, as for Tuya device you need to load it with Tasmota firmware, search YouTube for Tuya Convert tutorial. You need to have the passion and some technical knowledge to do that as you will maintain the solution yourself, otherwise don’t do it and stick with C4 native integrated equipment as you will find support from dealers and C4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 On 5/19/2020 at 10:17 PM, Amr said: There is a handful of devices for shades coming out in the market, but all is Bluetooth, It’s $45 a piece I bought one to try out and might integrate to C4 via AB4 later. Correction, on AliExpress 10’s of WiFi Tuya shades devices are available and in the range of $40 to $70 in addition to shipping ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Thanks. Honestly I will try as I don't have the money after a lot of unexpected expenses to go native Control4. Have you tried yourself? If so did you have much success? Thanks mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 20 minutes ago, Homerlovesbeer said: Thanks. Honestly I will try as I don't have the money after a lot of unexpected expenses to go native Control4. Have you tried yourself? If so did you have much success? Thanks mate I have a lot of flashed devices working already with my system, Light , sockets, strips, Humidifiers, Valves. All is working, I do have the Tuya Shade, but I did not install it yet as no labors are currently taking jobs, will do that in a month or two or I will install it myself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Homerlovesbeer Posted May 22, 2020 Share Posted May 22, 2020 Great. I'm buying Zigbee wall gpo's which work with Philips Hue which should work well with Control4 Hue Driver. I cannot spend 6 times the price on control4 curtains over Zigbee or Wi-Fi curtains. I don't have the money and it seems a blatant rip off too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregCAMS Posted June 1, 2020 Share Posted June 1, 2020 Have 4 rooms with Lutron Shades and 3 rooms with Somfy shades/motors. By far the Lutron shades are more reliable and much quieter. Bought the Somfy shades about 6 years ago and the Lutron ones 5 years ago. Have had 0 service calls on the Lutron units and have had to turn in 2 of the Somfy shades twice for swap. The Lutron units for comparable window size and options were about 40% higher than the Somfy shades. So just may come down to priority of needs and budget. Have 2 more rooms to do and definitely recommend Lutron. c44me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 Looks like Axis is 40% off right now has anyone tried or using them (with or without C4) ? https://cart.helloaxis.com/products/axis-gear Gary Leeds UK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnGordon Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 After all the problems we had with Somfy motorization, I stopped selling them. Lutron or Hunter Douglas only now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 13 hours ago, c44me said: Looks like Axis is 40% off right now has anyone tried or using them (with or without C4) ? https://cart.helloaxis.com/products/axis-gear We have 4 in our house and work very well c44me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 2 hours ago, Gary Leeds UK said: We have 4 in our house and work very well How cool have you integrated them with Control4 or how are you using/controlling? Is their app any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 They is a c4 driver ~ so you set them up in the app and then tell the app they are to be controlled by a hub ~ c4 then can connect to them. great for blinds in guest rooms and small windows for the living room with Q Motions c44me 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 54 minutes ago, Gary Leeds UK said: They is a c4 driver ~ so you set them up in the app and then tell the app they are to be controlled by a hub ~ c4 then can connect to them. great for blinds in guest rooms and small windows for the living room with Q Motions Perfect just need to figure out what to do with all the wands hanging from the blinds now :0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jfh Posted June 13, 2020 Share Posted June 13, 2020 I went through this exercise a couple years ago. I decided on shades with Rollease Acmeda motors. That didn’t limit fabric selections and the Annex4 drivers (free) are quite good. I would have loved Lutron, but way too expensive for 14 shades. Homerlovesbeer and annex⁴ 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelermedallion Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Understood. I think some folks are just pointing out the differences between Lutron and others. Lutron's patent for hembar alignment has not run out. Lutron does have the quietest and most reliable motors in the industry Lutron batteries last between 3-7 years. That said, you seem very happy with your choice and in the end that's what counts.Is there any difference between the Serena line of shades vs other Lutron shades in terms of quality of motor (do they use the same Lutron motor/ what is unique about the Serena line? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelermedallion Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 I would have bought Serena, but wasn’t in a position where I could wait for a sale. This was easy. Maybe I paid a little, but all I did was pick out the material and write a check. @matt - which did you buy and did you install yourself?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DawnGordon Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 7 hours ago, Steelermedallion said: Is there any difference between the Serena line of shades vs other Lutron shades in terms of quality of motor (do they use the same Lutron motor/ what is unique about the Serena line?Serena Shades use the same motors found on the Triathlon line of shades. There are a few software differences between Serena and Triathlon, like the ability to do hembar alignment, which is not possible with Serena. Also, Serena Shades are slightly less expensive than Triathlon -- depending on the fabric. Quote Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelermedallion Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 Thanks Dawn! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dinom Posted August 14, 2020 Share Posted August 14, 2020 About 5 years ago I got 8 Triathlon honeycomb shades and 1 large roller shade that covers a 6 foot sliding glass door. The honeycomb shades were in the more expensive color palette and size was approximately 3’x5’ each. I paid right about $4000.00 for everything including shipping. I got 40% off list price using an online Lutron vendor that I’ve been using for years and he’s always been great. You have to do your own measurements and install so you need to know what you’re doing. Let me know via PM if you want details. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 On 8/13/2020 at 11:11 PM, Steelermedallion said: @matt - which did you buy and did you install yourself? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro I got Graber shades with Somfy motors. My neighbor is in the shade business and he took care of everything, including install. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c44me Posted August 20, 2020 Share Posted August 20, 2020 On 8/17/2020 at 9:21 PM, ILoveC4 said: I got Graber shades with Somfy motors. My neighbor is in the shade business and he took care of everything, including install. Sounds shady OceanDad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chudel Posted August 25, 2020 Share Posted August 25, 2020 On 8/18/2020 at 12:21 AM, ILoveC4 said: I got Graber shades with Somfy motors. My neighbor is in the shade business and he took care of everything, including install. Are you using C4 to manage? What driver and C4 OS are you using? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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