turls Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Seems to apply to the attitude towards Control4 obsolescence as well. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sonos-outrage-legacy-speakers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 I don't understand it. It seems like apple does this every few years and no one bats an eye but anyone else and it's like they are killing your first born. eggzlot 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aayush Arya Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It's the difference between custom installed hardware and handheld gadgets. When something is hardwired into the home, the cost, disruption and hassle involved with upgrading it is greater, assuming it's even possible. I don't blame the user for not expecting to have to do so for at least a decade once installed. Sent from my SM-G970F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 It's the difference between custom installed hardware and handheld gadgets. When something is hardwired into the home, the cost, disruption and hassle involved with upgrading it is greater, assuming it's even possible. I don't blame the user for not expecting to have to do so for at least a decade once installed. Sent from my SM-G970F using TapatalkAnd that is how old the Sonos models not getting updates are. And no one is killing them. Just not new features Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shupp872 Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 hours ago, msgreenf said: And that is how old the Sonos models not getting updates are. And no one is killing them. Just not new features While I agree with you, I think some of the frustration is the concern and admitted risk that some current features (connections to current sources that work right now) may not continue to work in the future if those companies change something and Sonos can't make that new connection work on the old software. However, that was always a risk with a device like the Sonos, which relies heavily on other companies allowing / enabling connections like this. Realistically, the same risk exists for Heos or C4 audio. At some point, Pandora, TuneIn, or Amazon Music could disable access for our devices, or change how devices connect / authorize to a way that cannot be overcome with our current hardware. That is just the risk we all take when we chose to have "higher than average" tech in our homes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Windows 7 was released Oct 2009. It’s not supported anymore. Where is the outrage? Time2Jet 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 40 minutes ago, eggzlot said: Windows 7 was released Oct 2009. It’s not supported anymore. Where is the outrage? I'm still upset about windows xp KWD 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Just now, dcovach said: I'm still upset about windows xp im in the middle of moving my mother in law's XP laptop to a Win 10 machine. talk about a learning curve for the user.... VINCELdUB and Gary Leeds UK 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 7 hours ago, eggzlot said: im in the middle of moving my mother in law's XP laptop to a Win 10 machine. talk about a learning curve for the user.... Be glad you skipped Vista - that was the worst UI/UX of all VINCELdUB 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Leeds UK Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 How about VHS and BETAMAX - DVD just killed everything Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VINCELdUB Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 How about VHS and BETAMAX - DVD just killed everything What is a ”DVD”???Now, laser disc, that was impressive. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Gary Leeds UK 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted February 2, 2020 Share Posted February 2, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 6:19 PM, turls said: Seems to apply to the attitude towards Control4 obsolescence as well. https://www.wired.co.uk/article/sonos-outrage-legacy-speakers difference with C4 is updates are optional so if you have older hardware if you do not upgrade it will continue to function until it physically does not operate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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