Killing / Stopping an active session?

[N8Ball]

What is the best way to pragmatically stop an active session which happens to be playing in multiple rooms?

Specifically, someone in the house plays Pandora and puts it in 3-4 rooms, and inevitably all room's volumes are turns down...so no one knows that Pandora is actually playing.

We go to bed and the morning alarm radio doesn't work...because it sees that Pandora is already active and playing. 

I would like to shut down all active sessions at bedtime.

I believe I could generically just turn off all rooms...but that doesn't feel right. I feel like there should be access to Active Sessions, and simply kill the session...and that would stop playing in whatever rooms it's currently playing in. Am I thinking of this all wrong?

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks 

[JSTRONG]

1: Room Control driver. Add all rooms to it (or whatever rooms you want)

2: Create an event in scheduler to execute at whatever time you want

3: program when that schedular event executes, turn off that room in the room control driver that you added all rooms to

Takes about 70 seconds

 

[JSTRONG]

If you dont already have it, I  suggest placing the room control driver in every room and in your clouds or equipment room.

It will take a dealer a longer to log in to your account then to add the room control drivers

 

 

[N8Ball]

2 minutes ago, JSTRONG said:

1: Room Control driver. Add all rooms to it (or whatever rooms you want)

2: Create an event in scheduler to execute at whatever time you want

3: program when that schedular event executes, turn off that room in the room control driver that you added all rooms to

Takes about 70 seconds

 

Thanks for the suggestion...I have the room control driver installed...but I still didn't think turning off a room was the right way as I wanted direct access to the active session. I think my computer science programming background is making my OCD go into overdrive.

[JSTRONG]

You said you wanted to "shut down all active sessions at bedtime" 

A session is just a room (or groups of rooms) that is turned on and playing music or watching video. 

To turn off a session is to turn off a room (or group of rooms)

 

[JSTRONG]

Unless im confused... im going to ask our resident expert Mitch.. 

 

[N8Ball]

6 minutes ago, JSTRONG said:

You said you wanted to "shut down all active sessions at bedtime" 

A session is just a room that is turned on and playing music or watching video. 

To turn off a session is to turn off a room

 

That makes sense. I was thinking of it more like a single Pandora stream that happens to be playing in N number of rooms...I wanted to simply cut the stream (cut the head off) and all rooms would stop playing...like how you can click the Power icon in the top right? on a touchscreen and simply kill the steam...which turns off the stream in all rooms.

But I can start thinking of it as you describe.

Thanks a ton

[JSTRONG]

Yep, I modified my post above to include (or group of rooms) FYI

[msgreenf]

I don't think you can do that. I think you have to do room off

[N8Ball]

Here's what I did JSTRONG

Is this what you you said to do?

[JSTRONG]

Yes! As Long as “rack Av” is where you put the room control driver containing all of those rooms. 

[Matt Lowe]

1 hour ago, JSTRONG said:

Yes! As Long as “rack Av” is where you put the room control driver containing all of those rooms. 

does not matter where the driver is actually in the project as long as the correct rooms are selected for control.

 

[JSTRONG]

Oh comon Matt you had to find some fault and ruin all my greatness I’m passing on here. 
 

Happy Valentine’s Day!

 

[TundraSonic]

I'm trying to do something similar except from a button on a remote. I have a custom button that creates a session:

Select the channel..."..." in Kitchen

Add rooms 'Foyer, Living Room, ...

I'd like to turn this session off from the remote in the Living Room. If I turn off the kitchen (from where the session was originally created) then only the kitchen turns off, not the session nor other rooms that were added. 

Does the Room Control Driver do something to allow this?  Is there a good way to do it without the Room Control Driver?

My programming mind says that when the session is created that I should be able to stuff a session ID in to a variable and then for the button I would kill the session using what's in the variable to know the session ID to kill. But that doesn't appear to be the case w/ C4.

Thanks,

[mstafford388]

16 hours ago, TundraSonic said:

I'm trying to do something similar except from a button on a remote. I have a custom button that creates a session:

Select the channel..."..." in Kitchen

Add rooms 'Foyer, Living Room, ...

I'd like to turn this session off from the remote in the Living Room. If I turn off the kitchen (from where the session was originally created) then only the kitchen turns off, not the session nor other rooms that were added. 

Does the Room Control Driver do something to allow this?  Is there a good way to do it without the Room Control Driver?

My programming mind says that when the session is created that I should be able to stuff a session ID in to a variable and then for the button I would kill the session using what's in the variable to know the session ID to kill. But that doesn't appear to be the case w/ C4.

Thanks,

The room control driver is perfect for this.  You can assign multiple rooms to the room control driver then program a room off to that driver and it will kill any rooms assigned.  

[TundraSonic]

5 hours ago, mstafford388 said:

The room control driver is perfect for this.  You can assign multiple rooms to the room control driver then program a room off to that driver and it will kill any rooms assigned.  

So C4 doesn't provide a native way to do this? Seems like a very basic function that should exist.  Thanks though.

[msgreenf]

this is a native way....

[TundraSonic]

On 11/4/2021 at 3:32 PM, msgreenf said:

this is a native way....

Native in every programming environment I've ever worked in (and that's a lot since ENIAC  ) would be the 'create session' returning a Session ID that I'd use to kill that session later on.

Am I correct that this is a C4 driver (not a 3rd party) and that once installed I, a lowly homeowner, should be able to use it?

From a bit of reading it sounds like for multi-room stuff an instance of the driver must be installed and bound to those specific rooms and that this must be done by dealer and not by me? Or am I misunderstanding?

Is there a manual for it anywhere?  All I've found is a video in Spanish from Genesis Tech.

Thanks,

[msgreenf]

once it's installed composer HE can use it fine.

It's pretty self explanatory once you have it installed.

[TundraSonic]

Thanks!