zaphod Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 One thing that I would find very useful is a table that shows all of the streaming services that are out there and shows how well they integrate with C4 and all of the pros/cons of these services. Personally I use Spotify and I think it would be hard to get me to switch, but it might be nice to see all of the various options in one place. Is there any such list available? tdougray 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 Would be great... I tested lots of them a year or two ago and came to the conclusion that Tidal was best (for me). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Lowe Posted March 10, 2020 Share Posted March 10, 2020 6 hours ago, zaphod said: One thing that I would find very useful is a table that shows all of the streaming services that are out there and shows how well they integrate with C4 and all of the pros/cons of these services. Personally I use Spotify and I think it would be hard to get me to switch, but it might be nice to see all of the various options in one place. Is there any such list available? we can make one here. Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Deezer - Full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Spotify Connect - Limited integration most features are avalaible through the native app only Napster - Full integration tunein - full integration These are the services i am most familiar with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomgordon Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 we can make one here. Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Deezer - Full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Spotify Connect - Limited integration most features are avalaible through the native app only Napster - Full integration tunein - full integration These are the services i am most familiar with. Regarding Spotify, what kinds of features don’t work ? What if you have multiple family members each with their own account. How does that work ? I was under the impression that the newest version of C4 music streaming had Spotify as native and no longer needed Spotify connect. I guess I’m wrong?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 it's all spotify connect...so family members accounts work fine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Napster doesn't get much love it seems, but I keep it for some unique features (they have a nice playlist creation tool based on existing playlists for one), but it baffles me that they don't have a better family plan option. I haven't really tried the others on the list posted here (except Pandora) in C4 but integration is flawless. SiriusXM missed making this list. The biggest issue I have with it (I thought) was the Favorites would drop off. But there is an easy workaround to go the stations menu and go back to the Favorites. I think it is missing some integration of some of the internet-only channels as well. And it should be able to play the on-demand content, not sure why as late to the game that C4 was to adding the integration that they left that part out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 21 hours ago, Matt Lowe said: we can make one here. Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Deezer - Full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Spotify Connect - Limited integration most features are avalaible through the native app only Napster - Full integration tunein - full integration These are the services i am most familiar with. Tidal would be pretty much the same comment as Deezer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdougray Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 +1 for Tidal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rea Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Amazon Music is also there (and free to try if you have Prime). Works well through the app, but has no ability to do any programming with it in Composer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phantomgordon Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 Tidal would be pretty much the same comment as Deezer.Can you be more specific when you say that there’s not full support for rooms? What exactly does that mean? You can’t target Tidal/Deezer to individual zones? So for example, if my daughter had her Tidal account (in addition to my wife and I having ours), she couldn’t play her music in her room/zone while we play our Tidal favs in our MBR?Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 11, 2020 Share Posted March 11, 2020 1 hour ago, phantomgordon said: Can you be more specific when you say that there’s not full support for rooms? What exactly does that mean? You can’t target Tidal/Deezer to individual zones? So for example, if my daughter had her Tidal account (in addition to my wife and I having ours), she couldn’t play her music in her room/zone while we play our Tidal favs in our MBR? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk He's talking specifically to the driver called 'Room Control' which allows you to more easily program favourite selections and more. If you have three tidal accounts, you would simply add three tidal drivers, get them named after the person, and each selects their own wherever you want (provided your setup supports it, ie you have at least three streams available from controllers into your audio matrix switch/amplifiers) phantomgordon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 On 3/10/2020 at 6:18 PM, Matt Lowe said: Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Except that you cannot choose the "Shuffle Stations" station on Pandora when using the Room Control driver... unless this has been fixed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 7 hours ago, phantomgordon said: Can you be more specific when you say that there’s not full support for rooms? What exactly does that mean? You can’t target Tidal/Deezer to individual zones? So for example, if my daughter had her Tidal account (in addition to my wife and I having ours), she couldn’t play her music in her room/zone while we play our Tidal favs in our MBR? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 5 hours ago, Cyknight said: He's talking specifically to the driver called 'Room Control' which allows you to more easily program favourite selections and more. If you have three tidal accounts, you would simply add three tidal drivers, get them named after the person, and each selects their own wherever you want (provided your setup supports it, ie you have at least three streams available from controllers into your audio matrix switch/amplifiers) @phantomgordon - I would highly recommend Tidal. Great integration. Yes, you use different Tidal accounts in different zones perfectly. As @Cyknight says, we are talking about the Room Control Driver. Tidal / Deezer does not integrate as well with this as some other streaming services although you can program around this and get the identical result (in the case of Tidal, and, I would assume, Deezer). phantomgordon 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdougray Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 As we're compiling a list ( using previous peoples thoughts) we best add Apple Music so here goes:- Apple Music - NO c4 integration Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Napster - Full integration Tunein - full integration. Amazon - full integration but no ability to do any programming with it in Composer. Deezer - Full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Tidal - full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Spotify Connect - Limited integration most features are available through the native app only South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted March 12, 2020 Share Posted March 12, 2020 10 hours ago, tdougray said: As we're compiling a list we best add Apple Music so here goes:- Apple Music - NO c4 integration Pandora - Nearly full integration of features that I know. Napster - Full integration Tunein - full integration. Deezer - Full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Tidal - full integration. Limitation room control driver does not have full support Spotify Connect - Limited integration most features are available through the native app only ? You're missing a few Google Music - No integration Amazon Music - integration but can't comment on level (as it's not available here in Canada) Oh and Spotify Connect is essentially FULL integration, but Spotify connect as such is just limited (as in, Spotify only allows 'connect' ability and a few limited favourite options, there is no browsing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
turls Posted March 14, 2020 Share Posted March 14, 2020 On 3/12/2020 at 7:41 AM, tdougray said: As we're compiling a list we best add Apple Music so here goes:- Apple Music - NO c4 integration There's a ton more if you include ones with NO integration at all...which mentioning them isn't all bad because it might be ones to avoid. In my case, the advantages of Apple Music for family use outweigh the lack of integration for me, and besides that I like my Sonos Connect just fine for whole house use of Apple Music. Speaking of that, I guess it was ok for Apple to add Apple TV+ to Roku, etc when that came out, but they haven't given the same wide support for Apple Music to third parties...I know its somewhat apples to oranges but still irritating... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thepritch88 Posted March 16, 2020 Share Posted March 16, 2020 Now we have the add music driver I love that we can add music services easily and take advantage of all the free trials for the different services and see what works best for ourselves. I love Tidal South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elvis Posted April 21, 2020 Share Posted April 21, 2020 My family uses the native apps vs. C4 integration. So we use Spotify, and they like that they can fire it up send it anywhere and then go do something else with their phone and Connect keeps going uninterrupted. This is one thing they like about C4's connect -- they can pick up any remote and pause/skip/etc regardless of who played the music. Apple Music is tied for 3rd place with Pandora. Pandora is by far their choice for background music. iHeartRadio for morning news and podcasts. I used to enjoy Tidal music quality and the integration. But old age and hearing loss makes it, pardon the pun, a mute point really. So I quit paying for it and nobody noticed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted April 22, 2020 Share Posted April 22, 2020 LOL moot point. Personally, in our house, we really just use TuneIn and SiriusXM. In the end, there is just a desire to have music/sound going - not to listen to specific songs. Plan on introducing either Tidal, Deezer or MAYBE spotify again to the family, see if the kids in particular are now more interested. Funny thing is, my kids actually PREFER putting a CD in a player in their room... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted April 23, 2020 Share Posted April 23, 2020 Deezer is great and works very well, like it a lot and it has international titles as well ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris C Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I'm moving from Sonos to C4 whole home audio. Hearing the limited integrations about makes me a bit concerned if I'm making the right choice. Currently using Pandora and Spotify as main music sources. Using some other smaller ones but not a big concern if I were to not have them. Can you use something like Sonos or similar as a source-out for additional streaming options? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tdougray Posted May 1, 2020 Share Posted May 1, 2020 I would highly recommend Tidal. Great integration and also offer high res ( for additional cost) South Africa C4 user and Time2Jet 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I'm moving from Sonos to C4 whole home audio. Hearing the limited integrations about makes me a bit concerned if I'm making the right choice. Currently using Pandora and Spotify as main music sources. Using some other smaller ones but not a big concern if I were to not have them. Can you use something like Sonos or similar as a source-out for additional streaming options?What’s missing with C4 that you’re interested in? What gen is your Sonos? If you have already made a big investment in Sonos, one thing to consider is Roon. You’ll have to do a little research but you’ll want a Roon Nucleus, a Roon subscription, and a Tidal subscription. If you’re basically only steaming a reg nucleus works fine with upto about 6 simultaneous zones. After that, or if you have a large catalog of digital music files, you’ll need a Nucleus +. You can always lay around with the Roon app and desktop for 2-weeks free. As of this moment, Roon integrates nicely, but I’ve heard people mention joining zones is an issue. Roon is working on that. Good support. If any of that interests you PM me. But I’m not sure what you’ll lose with moving to C4 audio in terms of services. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Time2Jet Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 I didn’t read the entire thread yet, but regarding video steaming services, who else is about overwhelmed with the dozen new services that sprout up everyday? When I integrated Roku, I was overwhelmed with just it content. When is enough too much? You literally couldn’t watch all of the content that sparks your interests if that’s all you did for the rest of your days. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BraydonH Posted May 5, 2020 Share Posted May 5, 2020 17 hours ago, time2jet said: I didn’t read the entire thread yet, but regarding video steaming services, who else is about overwhelmed with the dozen new services that sprout up everyday? When I integrated Roku, I was overwhelmed with just it content. When is enough too much? You literally couldn’t watch all of the content that sparks your interests if that’s all you did for the rest of your days. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Roku helps with the streaming service anxiety. It can search across multiple services at once so you can see where it is cheapest if multiple places are streaming the same content. Roku is the only video streaming device you need right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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