Safe to use "Beanie" connectors for 70v speaker system?

[JakeFromSF]

Ive got a project with about 50 70v speakers I purchased through C4. In the process of getting the crimps i came across beanie connectors which basically doesn't require you to strip the wires you just slide them in and crimp with pliers which sounds very inciting when you will have to splice 50 speakers in line with one another.

Only issue is im only finding these connectors that allow for 16 gauge wire not 14 like im running to all of my speakers.

Does anyone have any ya or nay suggestions for if i should try this out or is there alternative that would help save me time here?

 

https://www.snapav.com/shop/en/snapav/platinum-tools-wire-connectors-b-type-pt-18140

 

 

[Pounce]

2 hours ago, JakeFromSF said:

Only issue is im only finding these connectors that allow for 16 gauge wire not 14 like im running to all of my speakers.

14 seems like overkill for 70v. Are you running a few thousand feet?

[mstafford388]

I'd personally still use wire nuts.  Beanies would save you a little time but you're definitely not getting as much copper on copper.  Not worth saving 30 minutes, you only have to do it once just do it right. 

[lippavisual]

Beanies were made for use with old CAT3 phone cable.  Smaller coating on the copper which was easier to make good contact.  You will not have a good experience using these.

Either wirenuts or Wago connectors, after you strip to bare copper.  Not that big of a deal, should only take you less than 30 seconds to strip 2/4 wires.

[Cyknight]

? I've NEVER used b connectors with unstripped wires...

You want to do it right, solder and shrinkwrap.

[JakeFromSF]

2 hours ago, Pounce said:

14 seems like overkill for 70v. Are you running a few thousand feet?

Yeah just about. 1500 feet or so.

[JakeFromSF]

1 hour ago, lippavisual said:

Beanies were made for use with old CAT3 phone cable.  Smaller coating on the copper which was easier to make good contact.  You will not have a good experience using these.

Either wirenuts or Wago connectors, after you strip to bare copper.  Not that big of a deal, should only take you less than 30 seconds to strip 2/4 wires.

Between Wirenuts or Wago connectors, do you think traditional wire nuts are more reliable?

[Pounce]

Are they weather exposed?

[JakeFromSF]

Just now, Pounce said:

Are they weather exposed?

No in a cafeteria and gymnasium

[Pounce]

If they aren't visually exposed I like Wago lever nuts. Otherwise match the color of your wire with the right size nut.

These are cheap and work well if you don't have anything that auto strips wire. Takes just a couple of seconds and if you are up a ladder it only takes one hand.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXKOEQ6

[JakeFromSF]

1 hour ago, Pounce said:

If they aren't visually exposed I like Wago lever nuts. Otherwise match the color of your wire with the right size nut.

These are cheap and work well if you don't have anything that auto strips wire. Takes just a couple of seconds and if you are up a ladder it only takes one hand.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXKOEQ6

Awesome just grabbed me a few pairs!

Those Wago lever nuts seem difficult to find someone with anything over a 50 count box in stock. I may end up having to use wire nuts.

[Pounce]

57 minutes ago, JakeFromSF said:

Awesome just grabbed me a few pairs!

Those Wago lever nuts seem difficult to find someone with anything over a 50 count box in stock. I may end up having to use wire nuts.

https://www.amazon.com/Wago-221-412-LEVER-NUTS-Conductor-Connectors/dp/B00JB3U7Y6?th=1

https://www.amazon.com/Wago-221-413-LEVER-NUTS-Conductor-Connectors/dp/B017NQWDY4

[ILoveC4]

3 hours ago, Pounce said:

If they aren't visually exposed I like Wago lever nuts. Otherwise match the color of your wire with the right size nut.

These are cheap and work well if you don't have anything that auto strips wire. Takes just a couple of seconds and if you are up a ladder it only takes one hand.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CXKOEQ6

I use something real similar to this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07HF2SGHX/ref=vp_d_pb_TIER2_sessmp_lp_B00CXKOEQ6_pd?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B07HF2SGHX&pd_rd_w=Exg4L&pf_rd_p=b9c8a149-8025-4ee4-a81e-c3b28f174075&pf_rd_r=2a491159-2653-4dee-a0d0-77718a2f79c4&pd_rd_r=2a491159-2653-4dee-a0d0-77718a2f79c4&pd_rd_wg=yla96

 

It takes about 0.5 seconds to strip a wire.