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I am trying to have my audio amp switch inputs whenever my AVR receiver turns on and off. should be simple.

in programming i program the "power on" to trigger input to A and power off to trigger input to B

doesn't work

if i manually execute the program it works fine.

if i power on the AVR composer sees the power is on, and when i switch off, it sees off.

for some reason though it just isn't firing the events that i programmed.

so i went into device variables and found the power state change variable and put them in there  with if statements saying if power is on do this, if it is off do that. again, executing this manually works fine but powering the AVR on and off does nothing.

 

am i missing something?

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As per another recent thread, receiver drivers have evolved beyond the basic proxy so much they've become unreliable to use as an 'event' as a lot of the tracking is handled differently behind the scenes. This means they are so much more useful (multi zone use, built in services, triggering audio types etc etc etc but comes at a price as you're finding now.

I would hang your programming on the receiver's end-point room turning on and off if that works for the purpose, or clarify what the intended 'use; is so someone can come up with alternative measures.

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13 hours ago, Cyknight said:

As per another recent thread, receiver drivers have evolved beyond the basic proxy so much they've become unreliable to use as an 'event' as a lot of the tracking is handled differently behind the scenes. This means they are so much more useful (multi zone use, built in services, triggering audio types etc etc etc but comes at a price as you're finding now.

I would hang your programming on the receiver's end-point room turning on and off if that works for the purpose, or clarify what the intended 'use; is so someone can come up with alternative measures.

my intended use is to get rid of a speaker relay box that i have been using to switch between using a set of speakers as surrounds or as whole house audio speakers. the relay box works fine and is triggered via 12v out from the receiver.

I am moving some things around and wanted to clean up some of that wiring and figured having my matrix amp (audiocontrol M4840) switch inputs, it would be much cleaner and also offer some other options for control so that i can have more options about when to switch the speakers and when not to.

what drives me crazy is that control4 clearly sees the state change in the receiver powering on and off but it just doesn't seem to trigger the events. i am not sure that this is a failing of the driver or not.

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Like I said, receiver drivers just aren't great for events for programming.

While I understand why you would want to change this, I'm not sure there's a real cleaner way of accomplishing this than you have now.

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On 9/11/2020 at 12:29 PM, Cyknight said:

Like I said, receiver drivers just aren't great for events for programming.

While I understand why you would want to change this, I'm not sure there's a real cleaner way of accomplishing this than you have now.

is there some other event that i might be able to trigger it from?

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never mind, i added the programming to the projector on/off events and it works fine!

now to email audiocontrol and see if they will fix their driver

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Yup, other options exist including the mentioned room off, or other devices that track better.

 

There may be little they CAN do fix the driver - this possibly has more to do with proxy limitations than individual driver issues.

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seems odd that they even have that option then in composer. i don't see why such a basic command like power on/off or power state change would not work for literally every possible device in composer. seems odd

 

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Basic proxy varaibles is why - they show up because of that, but if tracking of powerstate isn't implemented for whatever reason (and there may well be a good one, such as in receivers to allow discrete control over multiple zones - without having to have the main zones on), it breaks the function

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