ILoveControl Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 So which smoke detectors ya’ll use (of course intergrated into c4) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Via my alarm Sent from my Pixel 3a XL using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 I have GE and integrate via the old and obsolete Bridge, works flawlessly, I also have Nest Protect ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 What are you guys gaining by integrating with C4? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 Alarm panel integration is about the only way now. Who knows when Nest Protect will become available again. Can program things like when smoke alarm triggers, shut off HVAC, flash outside lights, etc. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveControl Posted September 26, 2020 Author Share Posted September 26, 2020 What are you guys gaining by integrating with C4? Well I have some far out areas in the house an alarm can be done via the roof speakers ... thats one. Other for me is I have a 6m by 6m marine fish tank with a crap load of equipment under it would want one under there as soon as there is smoke turn off all equipment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejn1 Posted September 26, 2020 Share Posted September 26, 2020 51 minutes ago, ILoveControl said: Well I have some far out areas in the house an alarm can be done via the roof speakers ... thats one. Other for me is I have a 6m by 6m marine fish tank with a crap load of equipment under it would want one under there as soon as there is smoke turn off all equipment. Thanks for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2 Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 21 hours ago, lippavisual said: Who knows when Nest Protect will become available again. I can assume that if you are on the old nest portal that it still functions with C4 and if you transition or start on the new google platform then it's game over? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredsoneya Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, JR2 said: I can assume that if you are on the old nest portal that it still functions with C4 and if you transition or start on the new google platform then it's game over? I don’t think so no, as Google stopped their API access so even the old nest accounts don’t work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 Some advantages of integrated smoke/fire alarm: -Additional warning mechanisms locally (speakers, flickering lights) - note that it should never REPLACE regular alarms! -Additional ways of warning remotely via email/text/push notification to home owner or designated 'outside' people (ie warn when there's smoke at your elderly parent's house) -Shut off HVAC to prevent smoke from traveling more -Turn on lights at low levels (bright lights in smoke can be blinding vs helpful) -More extreme but: activate path lighting to safe exists (floor or baseboard LEds, can even program to only lead to exists where alarm is not triggered yet) ejn1, cdepaola and Control4Thailand 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amr Posted September 27, 2020 Share Posted September 27, 2020 2 hours ago, fredsoneya said: I don’t think so no, as Google stopped their API access so even the old nest accounts don’t work. No am still on old Nest and API works fine ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neo1738 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 I have combination of nest protect in bedrooms (old api still) and 4 from the alarm company which tie directly into the alarm panel. The protects are programed to activate the alarm if CO or smoke detected and not turned off in 5 minutes. Opens all the blinds, for CO turns on all vents and opens garage doors, unlocks doors, etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JR2 Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 6 hours ago, Amr said: No am still on old Nest and API works fine ... So am I. I checked last month and it appeared that all of the old Nest back end systems and "hand shakes" were still working. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 Existing, at this point, should still work - but I don't believe you are able to do a new setup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Cohen Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 So what's the current status of Nest Protect and Control4? I have a very old Smoke Detector that I want to replace (not integrated into anything, just freestanding). The Nest Protect looks like a possibility, especially if there is Control4 Integration available. I've read that Control4 would be providing new drivers to work around the discontinuation of 'works with nest', but when I check the Control4 Driver database, the one for Nest Protect is from 2017. There are more recent "Nest Master" drivers, but it isn't clear if these would be used with a new Nest Protect. Any information appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 the new one has not been released Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Cohen Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll have to decide on the Nest Protect on its own merits, since I can't assume Control4 integration is coming. Any other "free-standing" smoke detectors that would have basic Control4 integration? My Alarm system is old, and not integrated with Control4. Down the road, post-Covid, I'll probably upgrade it to be able to do this, but not comfortable having people in our home just yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PorterTX Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 Hopefully I am asking this correctly but can you bind the smoke detector to C4 and thus program if they are connected through a PGM output? I have 2 hardwired DSC smoke detectors that are connected to the PC1616 panel through the PGM output (to my understanding). I would like to be able to create a text notification if they were to go off for when we are away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 12, 2021 Share Posted January 12, 2021 I think we can do that! PorterTX 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyknight Posted January 13, 2021 Share Posted January 13, 2021 10 hours ago, Don Cohen said: Thanks for the quick reply. I guess I'll have to decide on the Nest Protect on its own merits, since I can't assume Control4 integration is coming. Any other "free-standing" smoke detectors that would have basic Control4 integration? My Alarm system is old, and not integrated with Control4. Down the road, post-Covid, I'll probably upgrade it to be able to do this, but not comfortable having people in our home just yet. Nothing wireless (without a security system) that I'm aware of. You COULD use a security one if you have a wire there to connect it (probably needs to be a 4-wire version), though I'm not sure I'd recommend it for a life-saving device. 9 hours ago, PorterTX said: Hopefully I am asking this correctly but can you bind the smoke detector to C4 and thus program if they are connected through a PGM output? I have 2 hardwired DSC smoke detectors that are connected to the PC1616 panel through the PGM output (to my understanding). I would like to be able to create a text notification if they were to go off for when we are away. Standard 2-wire connection on older panels if memory serves (PGM1 being able to be set to use for 2-wire smoke) - assuming the alarm system is integrated, should be possible to send whatever you want on a fire alarm situation, or at least in any alarm situation with a read-out of the type of alarm. PorterTX and Don Cohen 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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