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Just got an email teasing a new Flo product that appears to be a kitchen faucet - with any luck this will be added to the Flo driver for C4 too and we'll have kitchen faucet control.  That would be a nice option....

 

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1 hour ago, Cinegration said:

If we added this to the driver what would it do?  I’m not sure what linking it to control4 would gain? 

@Cinegration the driver now is excellent and we've found it very useful in our home.  Looking into the future for the driver and expanding it to include new devices brought into the Flo ecosystem: my feeling is the ability to add more devices into C4 is always best because it expands both integration possibilities that may be immediately obvious but also those that aren't anticipated until you need it - having more tools available is always good and adds value to the driver.  Off the top of my head some immediate possibilities for useful integrations would be: 1.) if the kitchen faucet is running for more than X minutes shut it off; 2.) when the house shutdown macro runs (when people leave and/or when everyone is sleeping) then turn off the kitchen faucet; 3.) if the leak sensor under the kitchen sink detects water shutoff the kitchen sink; 4.) if the low temp sensor in any room detects a low temp turn on the kitchen sink slightly to prevent freezing pipes (this is better than the current implementation the sink supports because it only uses the temp right under the sink); 5.) if the device supports setting temperature limits, then set the max temp at one level normally and another level when the housekeeper is working; 6.) if the faucet turns on when the house is empty trigger the home security system to alarm; 7.) if the faucet has been used recently, don't turn off the lights near the kitchen even if motion hasn't been detected recently in that room (helpful for open layouts to avoid false triggering of lights off on no motion); 8.) if the Flo detects unusual water activity make sure the kitchen sink is off first before shutting down water to the entire house; etc.  These are just a few ideas but I'm sure having the option and more time would yield more possibilities now or in the future.

Additionally, Flo by Mohen may be expanding further in the future - I believe they announced a sump pump at CES that would also be integrated - hopefully the shower too in the future.  So in the future there are likely more devices and integration options that people will want to use through this driver.

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I don't see the benefit in most of these uses, and/or I would never use this functionality.  Maybe #4 makes sense if there is a long term power outage in the winter, or if you are away and there is extreme cold (<-20C) then you may want the water to run for a bit every hour.

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47 minutes ago, zaphod said:

I don't see the benefit in most of these uses, and/or I would never use this functionality.  Maybe #4 makes sense if there is a long term power outage in the winter, or if you are away and there is extreme cold (<-20C) then you may want the water to run for a bit every hour.

That's the good thing about professional "custom" integration - what's important to one person may not be to another and we get a system that reflects those wants/needs.  The more options the better 😃

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1 hour ago, Dueport said:

That's the good thing about professional "custom" integration - what's important to one person may not be to another and we get a system that reflects those wants/needs.  The more options the better 😃

Hear hear! I could see myself using a number of these options… great ideas!

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For me the biggest benefit of water/faucet integration is turning on the taps to start the hot water flowing.  I have an on-demand natural gas water heater that is on the basement, and my Master Bedroom is in the second floor.  It takes a good minute or so until the water is hot enough for the shower.  So that would have some benefit for me - much less for the kitchen.

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We’ll look into adding the devices. Might be nothing more than valve on/off though.  Currently the api is polling  so instant feedback will be an issue but, Moen has also been adding new features and we might be able to get asynchronous communication working :)   So Stay tuned.  
 

thank you for the examples.  We want the driver to have the ability to do the above examples.  Even if your particular job won’t use it ;)  

 

thanks!

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1 hour ago, Cinegration said:

We’ll look into adding the devices. Might be nothing more than valve on/off though.  Currently the api is polling  so instant feedback will be an issue but, Moen has also been adding new features and we might be able to get asynchronous communication working :)   So Stay tuned.  
 

thank you for the examples.  We want the driver to have the ability to do the above examples.  Even if your particular job won’t use it ;)  

 

thanks!

That's fantastic - thank you for considering it and looking into it!  Appreciate you being open to that feedback and look forward to hearing how it develops!  Would love to use the new features if they are doable!

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