Gary Leeds UK Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 8:51 PM, RAV said: It may be in preparation for a 4sight small new feature to watch for. (It's on dealer knowledge base, but I haven't see it made public, so not my place to say) Geo fencing ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 When did lighting scenes have a 3 bulb logo rather than an on/off bar? The answer is probably “2 years ago…”. Ok only noticed this today so wondered if it was this release or a long time back? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 Just now, South Africa C4 user said: When did lighting scenes have a 3 bulb logo rather than an on/off bar? The answer is probably “2 years ago…”. Ok only noticed this today so wondered if it was this release or a long time back? end of last year with one of the app updates South Africa C4 user 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowcatxx87 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 3:28 PM, ekohn00 said: hope its some good features, I saw that they're raising the cost of 4sight. I just bought 3 years at once, you can stack em on to your account. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dueport Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 15 minutes ago, snowcatxx87 said: I just bought 3 years at once, you can stack em on to your account. Good tip. Is the new price public yet? $100 is a pretty good deal really considering all the other subscriptions (ring, total connect, etc) you can dump after migration to C4. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowcatxx87 Posted January 30, 2022 Share Posted January 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, Dueport said: Good tip. Is the new price public yet? $100 is a pretty good deal really considering all the other subscriptions (ring, total connect, etc) you can dump after migration to C4. I am not sure, my buddy is a dealer and I just got it at cost. I would still lock retail pricing for multiple years, and even considering doing another couple of years as well before increase. You are right. I have no other costs for my house. Security (Self monitor with C4), Cameras, Chime - they all add up for remote/storage fees. Along with just getting Alexa last year, I can't give her up. I love yelling at my house now hahaha. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Guess the only way to add subscriptions is via dealer ? The only choice I get on C4 site is auto-renew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 yeah if you want to do multiple years. PM me I can help you with that if you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C4 User Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 4:28 PM, ekohn00 said: hope its some good features, I saw that they're raising the cost of 4sight. How much is the new annual cost of 4sight? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 1 hour ago, C4 User said: How much is the new annual cost of 4sight? A Benjamin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LollerAgent Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 minutes ago, zaphod said: A Benjamin It was just increased to $120 MSRP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Back to ontopic: Mentioned on another forum from a Control4 employee, the update is to support a very minor guts change in current production T4s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zaphod Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 18 hours ago, LollerAgent said: It was just increased to $120 MSRP. A Benjamin plus a Jackson. C4 contributing to inflation - it hasn't gone up in a while as I have had C4 for around 14 years and I think it was always $100/yr, but a 20% increase is pretty steep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 Considering Netflix doubled fees over the same period, $8 to $16, 20% seems a reasonable increase. For the record, it's never gone up, been $100 since introduction. And, yes, they raised Composer HE, which still includes 1 year, equivalently as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 15 minutes ago, RAV said: Considering Netflix doubled fees over the same period, $8 to $16, 20% seems a reasonable increase. Bad comparison, unless Netflix never added new content...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, ekohn00 said: Bad comparison, unless Netflix never added new content...... c4 added features for 4sight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rthind Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Noob question, once you get the 4sight subscription with composer HE, are you able to update the director version on your own? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
South Africa C4 user Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 1 minute ago, Rthind said: Noob question, once you get the 4sight subscription with composer HE, are you able to update the director version on your own? Nope. Still need a dealer for this. Rthind 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kaas Mayer Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 i don´t think that a 120usd subscription is state of the art.. especially on this connection speeds. complimentary external access is the standard on most smarthome systems i know dont understand why to charge so much money on an simple vpn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4 hours ago, Kaas Mayer said: i don´t think that a 120usd subscription is state of the art.. especially on this connection speeds. complimentary external access is the standard on most smarthome systems i know dont understand why to charge so much money on an simple vpn Don't think it's a simple vpn. I'm fairly certain you're connecting to a cloud server. Not to mention the voice control 4sight brings and the remote intercom. Personally I was shocked with a 20% increase and no amazing new features to go with that. Still $120 isn't bad if you can use the features. Since I also have Apple Home and HomeKit implemented and can control the home remotely at $0 cost, I dropped 4sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 4sight is a lot more then remote access Cloud backup Remote access Apple watch app When then Intercom anywhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RAV Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 Somebody's got to pay for it. 1. just those who use it - 4sight 2. everybody - markup the products and figure 10 years of developement/server costs per user 3. sell everybodys data, the popular choice of many IoT companies If it's "free", "included" then everybody pays. (History lesson, there was a time when these and more were all added licenses. Processors were cheaper. Intercom, Phone, 4Sight, Major Upgrades were all add on license fees. For example: $500 for intercom, $100 per phone for the app.) cidle323, RyanE, chopedogg88 and 1 other 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chopedogg88 Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 well said. msgreenf 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eggzlot Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 As an example, 2n charges ~$32 USD for a yearly contract to have a device work on its Intercom platform. So out of that $99 for the old pricing, 1/3 was already being "spent" towards intercom services. Very basic math, not everyone uses the Intercom feature so on a cost basis its less per subscription, I get it. But you have voice services, Cloud connections, etc. As others have said its a first time price increase. I don't love it, but I've been paying $99 since 2013. So a 20% increase is what it is.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RGBlake Posted July 31, 2022 Share Posted July 31, 2022 On 1/28/2022 at 11:41 AM, South Africa C4 user said: Phew! Stressful Yikes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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