"Security level" for C4 lighting scenes.

[John1199]

Hello community.

I have created "night mode" lighting scene via navigator. I want to add to that scene "security level" in order to client cannot delete it (but can edit it). Can I do that using navigator or Composer Pro software?

I want do that because in programming section I provide some condition to activate this scene automatically. Thus, if scene "night mode" will be deleted by client (accidentally), it will not be activated.

 

[RAV]

Only composer can currently delete lighting scenes.

Make a copy, change originals name to essential_night, and hide it everywhere.

[John1199]

43 minutes ago, RAV said:

Only composer can currently delete lighting scenes.

Make a copy, change originals name to essential_night, and hide it everywhere.

If I go to Lighting -> Scenes (via navigator), then press and hold on scene I want to delete, then I will see Options menu, where "Delete scene" option is accesible. After using this option, scene does not exists anymore (in C4 UI and Composer Pro).  Are there any ways to make "Delete scene" option unaccesible for particular lighting scene?  

 

One more moment. I don't want scene "night" to be invisible in C4 UI. User can toggle and edit that scene. I just want that scene to be protected from removing by user (accidental removing of course).

[Cyknight]

No intrinsic way of preventing that - there's a work around however - well sort of.

What we do for 'essential' scenes is to make a copy, rename it "{scene name} - System" and hide that scene.

Use that 'system' scene for programming and or 'essential' button connections (you will not want to do this for scenes you want the user to be able to edit from a nav).

 

[John1199]

28 minutes ago, Cyknight said:

No intrinsic way of preventing that - there's a work around however - well sort of.

What we do for 'essential' scenes is to make a copy, rename it "{scene name} - System" and hide that scene.

Use that 'system' scene for programming and or 'essential' button connections (you will not want to do this for scenes you want the user to be able to edit from a nav).

 

Thank you for your answer. 

But user can edit "main" scene (for instance changes lights to ON/OFF). Then, if I understand correctly, this scene and "system" scene (that is hidden) will not be the same. Am I correct?

Are there ways to automatic "synchronization" between these two scenes?

[RAV]

When did users deleting scenes become a thing outside of composer?

[Cyknight]

4 hours ago, RAV said:

When did users deleting scenes become a thing outside of composer?

OS3. You can't delete from the edit page, but press and hold allows the delete option

[John1199]

On 5/14/2022 at 2:32 AM, Cyknight said:

OS3. You can't delete from the edit page, but press and hold allows the delete option

In any case when user is deleting scene he will see appropriate warning message and confirm button. Thus, he cannot do that accidentally, but "block delete" option is absent for now.

Thank you for your answer.