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Hi All,

I am looking for a smart dimmer to use in all of the locations that I would not otherwise use a Control4 dimmer.  For example, I was going to put a dumb light switch in my kids closets (simple on/off).  These switches are like $5.00.  No real reason to have these integrated in my smart home (and spend $100 for a C4 dimmer/switch) at these locations but that being said, I am thinking I should just install a cheap smart dimmer anyway and if they work, great, if they don't work that well then I won't have lost too much money on them anyway.  In looking they range anywhere from $10/$15 all the way up to $60.  At $60 I won't bother but at $15 I might as well use them.  

What do you guys recommend as something that is simple and cheap and might be usable/reliable on C4 with a driver purchase?

I was warned to be careful that if I use a straight wifi only dimmer (rather than one that goes through a hub) it may make sorting my wifi devices overly complicated.  Not sure if this matters because I suppose I can set a vLAN just for these IOT devices, but if you think this matters, please let me know.  (I am using UI Dream Machine and UI wifi if that matters).

Thanks!

J

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4 hours ago, Jgoodm said:

Do the Kasa switches have a free driver or is it a third party paid driver?  Thanks. 

We have a driver on: https://chowmain.software/drivers/control4-tplink which is actively being maintained (and also supports the new colorwheel capabilities of OS 3.3 too). 

Any questions, feel free to ask (as I actually did the rewrite)

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Looks like the Kasa’s are not native for HomeKit, is that right?  

The most recent Kasa versions are also closer to $25 each.  Now I’m wondering if just getting something native to HomeKit that has a free supported driver for C4 makes sense for a little more money?  Any recommendations for another dimmer that fits the above?  (Caseta’s seem too expensive after the hubs required…)
 

Thanks 

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9 hours ago, Jgoodm said:

Looks like the Kasa’s are not native for HomeKit, is that right?  

The most recent Kasa versions are also closer to $25 each.  Now I’m wondering if just getting something native to HomeKit that has a free supported driver for C4 makes sense for a little more money?  Any recommendations for another dimmer that fits the above?  (Caseta’s seem too expensive after the hubs required…)
 

Thanks 

You'd need to decide if you want to spend more money, or not have Homekit. Keep in mind, Homekit is Apple proprietary, so won't work for anyone who has android or other platforms (Google Assistant and Alexa from my understanding tends to have better hardware support too), and if you do ultimately want to integrate with C4, you may still require a paid driver anyway. 

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2 hours ago, msgreenf said:

You keep adding more requirements and complain that the price goes up….I mean you are asking for a niche premium product now…

Where did I complain?  🤷‍♂️ I’m asking for a recommendation. I don’t know the products out there and my google searching isn’t getting me far. 

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1 hour ago, Andrew luecke said:

You'd need to decide if you want to spend more money, or not have Homekit. Keep in mind, Homekit is Apple proprietary, so won't work for anyone who has android or other platforms (Google Assistant and Alexa from my understanding tends to have better hardware support too), and if you do ultimately want to integrate with C4, you may still require a paid driver anyway. 

Yeah. I get it. Just looking for the cheapest way to accomplish the goal. I really don’t know who fits the need here, who has authorized drivers, etc. Was hoping for some recommendations since I don’t know what to even look for. 

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3 hours ago, therockhr said:

you have to pay for a driver but it is very well supported (you can talk to the dev directly on here if you want). even with a paid driver it will still be cheaper.

Somewhat depends.

If all you're doing is a 4-5 devices  ... I would just do essential switches. Consider if the limited savings would be worth having yet another puzzle piece in place.

Not saying not to use Kasa - but if most of your house is already native C4, I'm not sure if adding a 3rd party lighting system makes sense (that doesn't add specific capabilities you're looking for) for a handful of 'left overs'

An add-on of say $250 including driver vs $500  on a $50000 existing system- does it really make sense to cut a corner there?

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5 minutes ago, Cyknight said:

Somewhat depends.

If all you're doing is a 4-5 devices  ... I would just do essential switches. Consider if the limited savings would be worth having yet another puzzle piece in place.

Not saying not to use Kasa - but if most of your house is already native C4, I'm not sure if adding a 3rd party lighting system makes sense (that doesn't add specific capabilities you're looking for) for a handful of 'left overs'

An add-on of say $250 including driver vs $500  on a $50000 existing system- does it really make sense to cut a corner there?

how much are the essentials? i agree with you but they seemed to want this to be done as cheap as possible

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On 6/22/2022 at 2:39 AM, Andrew luecke said:

We have a driver on: https://chowmain.software/drivers/control4-tplink which is actively being maintained (and also supports the new colorwheel capabilities of OS 3.3 too). 

Any questions, feel free to ask (as I actually did the rewrite)

Thanks.  I went ahead and ordered the Kasa's and told my installer to buy your driver.  Am I right in assuming that once installed and working in C4 with your driver, if I have homebridge set up, these devices will also show up in HomeKit?  Thanks.

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Since these are just additions to places that were going to be dumb switches anyway, I bought the Kasa switches for $16/each and will but the driver for C4.  It wasn't worth spending more.  If it works well, great, if it doesn't it was a worthwhile gamble.  Thanks for the advice.

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6 hours ago, Jgoodm said:

Since these are just additions to places that were going to be dumb switches anyway, I bought the Kasa switches for $16/each and will but the driver for C4.  It wasn't worth spending more.  If it works well, great, if it doesn't it was a worthwhile gamble.  Thanks for the advice.

It will work great. Only thing is static ip the kasa outlets. Otherwise they can jump around and C4 won't know where to find them. 

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