Steve Hammond Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Hello, I just found that Control4 can be use as a AirPlay 1 destination using ShairBridge. But I cannot find out what is the minimum requirements for it. My Controller is a HC250 running OS2, can it work? Thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 Requires an hc800 on at least OS 2.8.0 and your Apple device (an iOS device running iOS 8.0 or later or other devices running iTunes 12 or later) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, dcovach said: Requires an hc800 on at least OS 2.8.0 and your Apple device (an iOS device running iOS 8.0 or later or other devices running iTunes 12 or later) I guess that could be a driver to upgrade the controller… Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted July 25, 2022 Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Steve Hammond said: I guess that could be a driver to upgrade the controller… You need at least an HC800 controller so you can't do this on an HC250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 25, 2022 Author Share Posted July 25, 2022 2 hours ago, dcovach said: You need at least an HC800 controller so you can't do this on an HC250 That is why I said ShairBridge could be what will make me upgrade to a new controller, one better than the HC250. But it probably won’t be an HC800, which is relatively old too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 12 hours ago, Steve Hammond said: That is why I said ShairBridge could be what will make me upgrade to a new controller, one better than the HC250. But it probably won’t be an HC800, which is relatively old too. I personally would upgrade based on performance alone, but you could just add an airplay device. For other audio based reasons, I've been playing with Raspberry PIs. You could easily add a Raspberry Pi and load hifiberry, dietpi or RoPieee all good options for simple Pi config for audio, and all provide Airplay. dcovach 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prabeau Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 ShairBridge is available on an HC800 ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 26, 2022 Author Share Posted July 26, 2022 9 hours ago, ekohn00 said: I personally would upgrade based on performance alone, but you could just add an airplay device. For other audio based reasons, I've been playing with Raspberry PIs. You could easily add a Raspberry Pi and load hifiberry, dietpi or RoPieee all good options for simple Pi config for audio, and all provide Airplay. I guess a Raspberry Pi won’t do better than an Apple TV. You still need to select the source from the Control4 app and then airplay to the Pi. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Hammond said: I guess a Raspberry Pi won’t do better than an Apple TV. You still need to select the source from the Control4 app and then airplay to the Pi. Depends on the entirety of what you're doing. Apple TV's don't have audio out. And they're not a fun thing to use headless in a rack to just provide airplay. At the same time, if all you want to do is add airplay to an area that you also have an ATV, then it's almost a no brainer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
msgreenf Posted July 26, 2022 Share Posted July 26, 2022 Or just buy a newer controller. You will have such a better experience then a 250 on an old os 2.9.1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 54 minutes ago, msgreenf said: Or just buy a newer controller. You will have such a better experience then a 250 on an old os 2.9.1? Not even that much, I think it is 2.10 from what I can see in the iPhone app. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 27, 2022 Author Share Posted July 27, 2022 1 hour ago, ekohn00 said: Depends on the entirety of what you're doing. Apple TV's don't have audio out. And they're not a fun thing to use headless in a rack to just provide airplay. At the same time, if all you want to do is add airplay to an area that you also have an ATV, then it's almost a no brainer. My Apple TV are all in my rack. I used to be able to AirPlay to one that I directed to an audio output of the matrix, but it is a dual step configuration that I can deal with maybe, but too much for the other members of my family. I do not see how a Raspberry Pi could handle the sound of the matrix without being integrated into the Control4 system itself. Maybe can you share the how to of your setup?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ekohn00 Posted July 27, 2022 Share Posted July 27, 2022 11 hours ago, Steve Hammond said: I do not see how a Raspberry Pi could handle the sound of the matrix without being integrated into the Control4 system itself. Maybe can you share the how to of your setup?? You could add a DAC hat to a PI. This allows streaming music to play direct from the PI/DAC to the matrix. You need an OS on the PI that supports Airplay. Check out hifiberry.com - they make a bunch of audio hats for the PI. HIFIBerryOS supports Airplay as well as DLNA, Spotify Connect, bluetooth and a few others. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 Simply putting Kodi (eg OSMC) on a RPI also has an option to enable or disable airplay. You could get the chowmain kodi lite driver and program a room to turn on when audio starts playing. I think that could work too. The kodi lite driver has a trial option so it could be tested before buying. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 5 minutes ago, dcovach said: Simply putting Kodi (eg OSMC) on a RPI also has an option to enable or disable airplay. You could get the chowmain kodi lite driver and program a room to turn on when audio starts playing. I think that could work too. The kodi lite driver has a trial option so it could be tested before buying. That is all the problems I can see if using a Pi for AirPlay, since my audio matrix is connected to 8 different zones. Even if I can AirPlay to a Pi, it won’t help me select which zone I want to use over AirPlay. I even have an AirPlay AirPort Express that could be used for AirPlay, but that won’t result in any easy way to select the destination. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dcovach Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 12 minutes ago, Steve Hammond said: That is all the problems I can see if using a Pi for AirPlay, since my audio matrix is connected to 8 different zones. Even if I can AirPlay to a Pi, it won’t help me select which zone I want to use over AirPlay. I even have an AirPlay AirPort Express that could be used for AirPlay, but that won’t result in any easy way to select the destination. If the RPI has an audio path to your matrix while using the kodi lite driver, it will show up as a device on the navigators. So instead of programming a zone to turn on, you could select one manually and add desired zones. I'm not sure if this is the way you want the integration to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lippavisual Posted July 28, 2022 Share Posted July 28, 2022 He wants the rooms to auto-power ON when airplaying. Only will get that with Shairbridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Hammond Posted July 28, 2022 Author Share Posted July 28, 2022 1 hour ago, lippavisual said: He wants the rooms to auto-power ON when airplaying. Only will get that with Shairbridge. Exactly what I’m thinking. I was beginning to ask myself where my English was not properly written!! thank you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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