SuperSpiker Posted July 30, 2010 Share Posted July 30, 2010 There are only two wires coming from my existing fireplace switch. (Black, and Black with white stripe)Does this mean the C4 fireplace switch my dealer had me buy wont work this wiring setup?What do I need to make this fireplace switch work?Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 There are only two wires coming from my existing fireplace switch. (Black, and Black with white stripe)Does this mean the C4 fireplace switch my dealer had me buy wont work this wiring setup?What do I need to make this fireplace switch work?Thanks.Based on the info you have provided the C4 fireplace switch will not work in your install. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpiker Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 Could I use a C4 switch instead? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Could I use a C4 switch instead?Not with the existing wiring. The problem is that you have no power at the wall box to power the fireplace switch.Can you fish additional wires to the wall box? If you could do this you could use the fireplace switch. The fireplace switch is basically a relay. The switch also requires power, either 110 volt or a low voltage supply. The advantage of this method is that the fireplace appears as a fireplace icon in the GUI.An alternate method (and more costly) would be to use C4 switch and a Card Access relay. The C4 switch would go in the wall and be powered via low voltage over the existing pair of wires. The Card Access relay would go inside the fireplace and be powered by 110 volt and also be attached to the fireplace control. The disadvantage of this method is that the fireplace appears as a light icon in the GUI.There is a thread on this in the forum already.http://www.c4forums.com/viewtopic.php?id=4614 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Alan, can you bind a relay to the generic fireplace driver? You'd think that would be possible, then you could get out on the GUI Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpiker Posted July 31, 2010 Author Share Posted July 31, 2010 I found some additional wires in the box that I didn't see at first in the wall box. A red and a white wire.So the existing (traditional) fireplace switch was wired to the black and black with white stripe wires. Tucked in the back of the wall box I found 2 wires not being used. A red and a white wire. Are these the 110 volt or what I need to hook up a low voltage power supply?Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 Throw a meter on them and see if you've got power or not. I'd guess not, but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted July 31, 2010 Share Posted July 31, 2010 I found some additional wires in the box that I didn't see at first in the wall box. A red and a white wire.So the existing (traditional) fireplace switch was wired to the black and black with white stripe wires. Tucked in the back of the wall box I found 2 wires not being used. A red and a white wire. Are these the 110 volt or what I need to hook up a low voltage power supply?Thanks for the help.As mentioned check if there is any voltage on those spare wires. Where is the other ends of those wires. If they are unused and run down to the fireplace you could probably send the low voltage needed to power the fireplace switch. You only need 2 wires for low voltage power and 2 wires to control the fireplace. C4 sells a low voltage power supply that can power the fireplace switch. It is just a 30 volt supply so you could potentially source a different power supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpiker Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 I got lucky. Those spare wires worked perfectly. I have power to the fireplace switch! But now to figure out why the bottom LED is stuck on solid green... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted August 1, 2010 Share Posted August 1, 2010 I got lucky. Those spare wires worked perfectly. I have power to the fireplace switch! But now to figure out why the bottom LED is stuck on solid green...Did you use 110 volt or low voltage? If you used 110 did you not use a ground? What is the gauge of the wire? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperSpiker Posted August 1, 2010 Author Share Posted August 1, 2010 I used 110 volt and did not use the ground wire. I'm not sure what the gauge of the wire is but it looked like standard size wire coming out of a wall box.May I ask why you wanted this info? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
henniae Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 I used 110 volt and did not use the ground wire. I'm not sure what the gauge of the wire is but it looked like standard size wire coming out of a wall box.May I ask why you wanted this info?Just looking out for your safety. It is also code in most places to use a ground wire for a high voltage install. I personally would have gone the low voltage route in your situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILoveC4 Posted August 2, 2010 Share Posted August 2, 2010 Most items that plug into an electrical outlet don't use a ground. I'm no electrician, but my understanding is that it isn't as big a deal as people think... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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