akg4y Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 I realize this may be more appropriate in a security installation forum (can anyone recommend a good one with lots of traffic/posts?), but since a lot of people here use the GE Concord 4 system I thought Id try my hand here. I just had my Concord 4 system installed and we are having some problems, #2 being the most annoying:1) Touchpanel shows Bus Failure 0 and Bus Failure AM3 when I press the '*' key. The Bus Failure AM3 Im pretty sure is just because we have not yet connected anything to the unit and will probably resolve when connected to control4. I have no idea what the Bus Failure 0 is nor how to fix it, any suggestions?2) Our system touchpanel AND Siren both go off whenever system state changes and for all status beeps. For example when entering or exiting with a delay both will go off every few seconds until the system is armed/disarmed. This is really annoying, I mean I could handle having the touchpanel do that but I cannot deal with the siren going off every 2 seconds for 2 minutes or whatever. Plus, if it is nighttime and I come home when my wife has the system armed to 'Stay' then it will go off until I get inside and disarm the panel, probably waking her and the neighbors up. Ive read the installation manual and the userguide and I cannot figure out how to get it not to do this. I know when arming you can use '5' before entering the codes to do a silent arm, but that still doesnt solve the entry problem since you cant get to a touchpanel before opening the garage, etc.I really need help here, this is driving all of us nuts and the person that installed it doesnt seem to know the answer either. Anyone else with Concord 4 panels having these issues, or is your system always silent unless the alarm is tripped? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted June 7, 2009 Author Share Posted June 7, 2009 Well, I figured out #2... had to rewire the siren as output 2 instead of output 1, and on the onboard options change the trigger to 00410 instead of the default.Now I just need help figuring out the bus failures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 AM *is* the Automation Module.I think you're correct, it's because it's not hooked up to the automation system.It's getting an error because it considers the automation system to be a critical part, and if it doesn't hear from it in a certain amount of time, you're getting the failure.RyanE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted June 10, 2009 Author Share Posted June 10, 2009 Just a follow up, the bus 0 error appears to be because one of the bus devices was not being correctly identified for some reason. I manually deleted the bus devices from the programming, powered down the unit and unplugged the battery, then powered back up. The bus that was previously assigned to slot 0 did not get identified on that power up and I started getting sirens going off and all of these errors from multiple devices. I manually inputted the same bus ID numbers as were present before I deleted them, powered down again, and when I powered back up all was well. So basically everything is back the way it was before I did anything but now Im not getting the error. Stupid computers.The AM3 error is still there but I think our explanation above covers it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted September 27, 2009 Author Share Posted September 27, 2009 (edited) Punctuation and grammar go a long way towards people being able to understand what you want to know... I honestly have read that sentence 3 times and dont know what youre asking. I assume this is a language barrier issue? Edited September 27, 2009 by akg4y Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
c4wirepro Posted October 9, 2009 Share Posted October 9, 2009 YOur original bus failure on BUS 0, is the programming keypad usually. If the programming keypad is plugged in to the panel during the power up phase of the installation, it will scan it in as part of the system so when it is removed there will be a failure because the system can no longer see it. You did the right thing by deleting it. As far as your AM fail.... AM is ( automation module) correct. Your concord scans and checks in with all devices connected to the system every 12 hours. If this is not connected properly, or not at all connected it will show the failure. Make sure that everything is properly connected before power up on the panel. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted October 10, 2009 Author Share Posted October 10, 2009 Thanks yeah everything is working fine now... The AM module failure was just because the c4 system was not yet connected to the module.The only issue I am having now is my system protests anytime I try to arm the system with a contact open. I think with my sister's alarm you can arm it with the garage door open etc, so that you dont have to always close everything before arming, but for some reason mine wont allow that. Can anyone else here arm their Concord4 system with the garage doors open? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanE Posted October 10, 2009 Share Posted October 10, 2009 You need to change the zone type. I don't recall what they're called, but one of the zone types allows for it to be open, and it'll automatically bypass the zone if you arm with it open, and when it closes, the zone goes automatically into armed mode.RyanE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted October 14, 2009 Author Share Posted October 14, 2009 Do you mean sensor group, I dont see anything about zone types in the Concord4 install manual. Im hoping C4wirepro can chime in since he seems to be an expert on the Concord 4! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poscash3757 Posted October 14, 2009 Share Posted October 14, 2009 Do you mean sensor group, I dont see anything about zone types in the Concord4 install manual. Im hoping C4wirepro can chime in since he seems to be an expert on the Concord 4!yes it is the sensor group Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akg4y Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 There are sensor groups that allow for delays (groups 10, 11, 12) but there are none that allow for the sensor to be open when the system is armed. The only way I can find to allow it is to bypass the sensor while arming the system, but then I dont think it arms them when the garage door closes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kurt Franz Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Hi I realize this is a very old thread......i am just looking for some clarification on this as I mistaken cleared the memory of my installation and the siren is beeping in the manner that the keypad used to do. Well, I figured out #2... had to rewire the siren as output 2 instead of output 1, and on the onboard options change the trigger to 00410 instead of the default. Now I just need help figuring out the bus failures. How do I change the trigger to 00410 instead of the default? Been looking at the manual and am having troubles. Thanks to anyone who decides to respond:) kurt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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